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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:00 am

...why would you pick dreaming tree over Ants or Tripping Billies? I've never heard Dreaming Tree live, and would rather hear Billies or Ants over that song for every show.

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Unread post by i-am-me » Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:28 am

Warehouse....amazing. Ants Marching...wow. Tripping Billies...incredible. The Stone...holy shit.

I could do that forever! but warehouse is just one finely written and played song.
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Unread post by mbgreen » Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:24 pm

Davy28 wrote:True, but Ants comes damn close.
I disagree. I dont think ants is anywhere near a masterpiece. Neither are ANY of dmb's songs though. Great symphonies are described as being a masterpiece. Bach, Beethoven...they wrote masterpieces. Some jazz pieces could be described as a masterpiece. Putting dmb on that level doesnt make sense to me...dave wrote some great songs and had some good musicians add some flare to them.

I guess the word carries more meaning for me than "a single artist's best work," which is what it seems people here are taking it as.
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Unread post by Appfro » Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:39 pm

mbgreen wrote:
Davy28 wrote:True, but Ants comes damn close.
I disagree. I dont think ants is anywhere near a masterpiece. Neither are ANY of dmb's songs though. Great symphonies are described as being a masterpiece. Bach, Beethoven...they wrote masterpieces. Some jazz pieces could be described as a masterpiece. Putting dmb on that level doesnt make sense to me...dave wrote some great songs and had some good musicians add some flare to them.

I guess the word carries more meaning for me than "a single artist's best work," which is what it seems people here are taking it as.
i see what you're saying, but i think they are looking for dave's best work. they say masterpiece meaning dave's masterpiece...like his greatest song, his greatest work of art. not one of music's masterpieces written by dave. i agree w/ you that dave nor any other pop modern artist should be mentioned in the same sentence as bach and beethoven and mozart etc. but i think they're just syaing here dave's greatest work...which i have already answered according to my opinion :D

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Unread post by mbgreen » Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:52 pm

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mbgreen wrote:
Davy28 wrote:True, but Ants comes damn close.
I disagree. I dont think ants is anywhere near a masterpiece. Neither are ANY of dmb's songs though. Great symphonies are described as being a masterpiece. Bach, Beethoven...they wrote masterpieces. Some jazz pieces could be described as a masterpiece. Putting dmb on that level doesnt make sense to me...dave wrote some great songs and had some good musicians add some flare to them.

I guess the word carries more meaning for me than "a single artist's best work," which is what it seems people here are taking it as.
i see what you're saying, but i think they are looking for dave's best work. they say masterpiece meaning dave's masterpiece...like his greatest song, his greatest work of art. not one of music's masterpieces written by dave. i agree w/ you that dave nor any other pop modern artist should be mentioned in the same sentence as bach and beethoven and mozart etc. but i think they're just syaing here dave's greatest work...which i have already answered according to my opinion :D
Nail on the head. I still cant say masterpiece and dmb in the same sentence though. :wink: :)
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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:01 pm

i still believe ants...i still hear it played on the radio... and even my friends and family that aren't real dave fans know the words to this song...it seems to have been had the longest lasting impression than any other that is played today

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Unread post by i-am-me » Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:16 pm

mbgreen wrote:
Appsoldier wrote:
mbgreen wrote:
Davy28 wrote:True, but Ants comes damn close.
I disagree. I dont think ants is anywhere near a masterpiece. Neither are ANY of dmb's songs though. Great symphonies are described as being a masterpiece. Bach, Beethoven...they wrote masterpieces. Some jazz pieces could be described as a masterpiece. Putting dmb on that level doesnt make sense to me...dave wrote some great songs and had some good musicians add some flare to them.

I guess the word carries more meaning for me than "a single artist's best work," which is what it seems people here are taking it as.
i see what you're saying, but i think they are looking for dave's best work. they say masterpiece meaning dave's masterpiece...like his greatest song, his greatest work of art. not one of music's masterpieces written by dave. i agree w/ you that dave nor any other pop modern artist should be mentioned in the same sentence as bach and beethoven and mozart etc. but i think they're just syaing here dave's greatest work...which i have already answered according to my opinion :D
Nail on the head. I still cant say masterpiece and dmb in the same sentence though. :wink: :)
I love when people say that cause then i can say "how about the sentence 'DMB has not ever written a masterpiece.'" :wink: :lol:
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Unread post by Davy28 » Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:38 pm

Maybe he'll write a symphony some day.
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Unread post by NoNotThat » Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:58 pm

what is a masterpiece

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Unread post by fatjack » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:07 pm

DmbFanJason wrote:...why would you pick dreaming tree over Ants or Tripping Billies? I've never heard Dreaming Tree live, and would rather hear Billies or Ants over that song for every show.
because the dreaming tree is superior to both those songs in both instrumentation and composition
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Unread post by acousticraven » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:20 pm

Appsoldier wrote:
zeppelin41 wrote:I don't think a song's popularity is what makes it a maserpiece
amen...nor does an album.
acousticraven wrote:Under the Table & Dreaming Put The Band On the Map bro
just because UTTAD HELPED them become popular doesn't mean it defines them. dmb's anthem would have to be a collaboration album of their best stuff from each record, it's the only way to capture the whole band. The only reason i named those others is because it's pretty undisputable that those are their best albums/peaks of their existances. Look at the "best dave album" threads, UTTAD isn't even number 1...usually BTCS is.
Instead of acting like you know it all.. just think if UTTAD hadn't done what it did.. none of us wouldn't have even bothered picking up a DMB CD..if you're talking to a non-dmb fan, i really doubt they would pick a song off of BTCS.. =P What Would you Say?
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Unread post by acousticraven » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:22 pm

fatjack wrote:
DmbFanJason wrote:...why would you pick dreaming tree over Ants or Tripping Billies? I've never heard Dreaming Tree live, and would rather hear Billies or Ants over that song for every show.
because the dreaming tree is superior to both those songs in both instrumentation and composition
I agree, that song has a bit of everyone's input into it.. which shows the true music talent of the band.. but all & all.. all their songs kick ass hands down.. except "I Did It" .. damn that producer
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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:22 pm

fatjack wrote: because the dreaming tree is superior to both those songs in both instrumentation and composition
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Unread post by NoNotThat » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:07 pm

XD jason you're amazing

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Unread post by Brock » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:20 pm

mbgreen wrote:Great symphonies are described as being a masterpiece. Bach, Beethoven...they wrote masterpieces.
I'm all for Baroche, but I pretty much agree with David St. Hubbins (i think that's how you spell it, of Spinal Tap) on the Little Worlds introduction:

"I don't like classical music, it's like they forgot how to improvise."
^something to that effect, haven't listened to the intro in a while
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