Is Dave a great Songwriter?

Elliottman · Unread post by **Elliottman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:41 pm

I was in the pub having a couple of pints when we got talking about great song writers, Dillan, Simon, Springsteen, Britney Spears etc
When i was driving home i got listening to DDTW and though "shit this songs has so much thought and meaning behind it". Great song, great lyrics. Dave has also wrote other amazing songs with great lyrics, Seek Up, Dreaming Tree, Say Goodbye, Stay or leave the list could go on.

But we also know he has wrote some shit lately too. EBWU haunts me, first half of dreamgirl is a disgrace lyrically, some Everyday songs are horrible. But every writer goes through bad spells im sure. He's picked it up a bit lately with IDOY and i particulary like the lyrics to Sister.

So my question is, when its all said and done, and the dust has settled on the Dave Matthews Band, can Dave go down in history as a great song writer? Hit Yes or No and give your reason why.

GSR · Unread post by **GSR** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:09 pm

Absolutely.

Elliottman · Unread post by **Elliottman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:15 pm

ive put yes becasue of the fact he is my hero! haha. But in terms of music, i cant get enough. I love him and the Band, his music has done so much for me and got me through some tough times. So yeah ill put down he's great. But there are a lot of people on here that know a lot more songwriters than i do, so will have more to compare with.

HumbleMonkey · Unread post by **HumbleMonkey** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:17 pm

some of the newer songs arent anything great some even bad, but he definitely is an awesome songwriter

GSR · Unread post by **GSR** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:22 pm

A lot of cool people aren't afraid to say he's not a great guitarist or a great vocalist, and those are definitly debatable. But I think that there's no question that he is most certainly a great songwriter.

littlefriend · Unread post by **littlefriend** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:38 pm

Absolutely. At least when he wants to be.

Martini · Unread post by **Martini** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:39 pm

littlefriend420 wrote:Absolutely. At least when he wants to be.

Sort Of A Protest Song · Unread post by **Sort Of A Protest Song** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:49 pm

Definitely

bense27 · Unread post by **bense27** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:11 pm

obviously we will all say yes

GSR · Unread post by **GSR** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:12 pm

bense27 wrote:obviously we will all say yes

Not so.

Hydro120 · Unread post by **Hydro120** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:13 pm

I didn't come up with this but I agree with it: Dave is not so much a great songwriter, as much as he is a great poet and musician.

Elliottman · Unread post by **Elliottman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:19 pm

What would some of you say, lyrically, are his best 3 songs? Lyrically?

Nitro1515 · Unread post by **Nitro1515** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:25 pm

Milligan wrote:What would some of you say, lyrically, are his best 3 songs? Lyrically?

The Stone, The Dreaming Tree, Spoon

Nitro1515 · Unread post by **Nitro1515** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:33 pm

And yes Dave is a great songwriter, sure he has some absolutely horrendous songs, who doesn't? But the majority of his songs are good and some of those are among the best songs I've ever heard.

Mikey · Unread post by **Mikey** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:37 pm

Nitro1515 wrote:
Milligan wrote:What would some of you say, lyrically, are his best 3 songs? Lyrically?
The Stone, The Dreaming Tree, Spoon

hmm, id have to agree with you on dreaming tree and spoon, but am gonna put you never know in front of the stone

edit: damn, bartender has some great lyrics as well

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