Hardest part of a song

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Unread post by baboonfarmer » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:27 pm

This may sound retarded...but I can play pretty much every Dave song and have it sound pretty frickin' good. (Around me, it doesn't count on ly to play it...you need to play and sing at the same time...that's the challenge).

Anyway...the point is...I've been trying to play the verse to Satellite for literally 9 years...and STILL cannot get it. I can play all of the notes...but put them together and try to sing over it...not happening for me.

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Unread post by TOMAMI » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:47 pm

the Webster Dictionary defines the word Difficult: \'dif-i-(,)kelt\ the Guitar verse to Tripping Billies a song by Dave Matthews.\ The intro to Warehouse another song by Dave Matthews.

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Unread post by TOMAMI » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:48 pm

the Webster Dictionary defines the word Difficult: \'dif-i-(,)kelt\ the Guitar verse to Tripping Billies a song by Dave Matthews.\ The intro to Warehouse another song by Dave Matthews.

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Unread post by Appfro » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:00 pm

baboonfarmer wrote:This may sound retarded...but I can play pretty much every Dave song and have it sound pretty frickin' good. (Around me, it doesn't count on ly to play it...you need to play and sing at the same time...that's the challenge).

Anyway...the point is...I've been trying to play the verse to Satellite for literally 9 years...and STILL cannot get it. I can play all of the notes...but put them together and try to sing over it...not happening for me.

Wierd.
i had that problem but then i stopped playing exactly like dave. i think he just hits down on each string w/ his pick, i do the thing where you hit down on one string then up on the next etc. i think it's called circular picking or alternate picking (grock or fatjack, a little help). but after i mastered it that way i could sing w/ it cause i didn't have to think about two hands and my vocals at the same time.

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Unread post by baboonfarmer » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:04 pm

hmmm....i should try that.

My only other problem is keeping the fretting on 4 true...after a couple of cycles I wind up unknowingly dragging my "barre" so to speak down to 5.

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Unread post by Appfro » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:08 pm

long fingers :D my fingers don't stretch enough to accidentally bend my notes on dave's stretch chords.

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Unread post by djs488 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:11 pm

i was too lazy to learn the mutinf for the stone, so i actually just practice hitting that one string really quickly. and if i miss, i've already accidentally muted the two ones below so it still sounds good. i havent really tried it but BOWA looks kinda hard to sing to. i can sing with the stone and tripping billies. overall, i think that either one of the those two was the hardest
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:05 pm

I think TS is really hard!
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Unread post by DMBFan63 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:09 pm

TS is really hard to sing over.. it's weird..:-p BOWA is pretty easy to sing/play.. the chorus sometimes screws me up though.. Hm.. the 3rd chord in YNK Bridge I guess it is? it's this chord(playing capo 2nd fret, tab relative to the capo) x1x211
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:35 pm

yeah, its the picking that gets you confuzled a bit. Playing Crash with the stretch the entire time is hard
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Unread post by MitchMan3687 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:37 pm

At first, the verse to Billies was very hard. It took me almost two months straight to learn that one. But once I got it down, and could make my hand make all of the fast stretches and slides, it became quite easy. I even finger-pick Billies now, just because. That reminds me, have any of you tried to fingerpick songs that should be picked regularly? (i.e. Billies, #40). It really brings out some songs. You should try it. I know it sounds weird, but I also like to fingerpick Gravedigger and Grey Street: very cool when you want the song to be real quiet. Also, The Stone has kicked my ass ever since I got my guitar a year ago. Warehouse, too.
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Unread post by Davy28 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:09 pm

The slide to the 10x710-- on SMTS took me forever to make sound right. Same with the billies verse.
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Unread post by DMBFan63 » Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:02 pm

same here davy.. i learned that after my 1st song, which was ants marching, and it took me forever to do the 1 3 5/10x710 3 5 7 thing..
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Unread post by Davy28 » Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:38 pm

For the 1 3 5 & 3 5 7 thingies, I hammer on the notes as I play them like in warehouse. They come out much cleaner that way.
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Unread post by DMBFan63 » Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:56 pm

well I can now play it cleanly, and quite easily.. it's an easy song for me imo.. that was over a year ago that i tried learning it..
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