Large Drumset Layouts

3vil0n3 · Unread post by **3vil0n3** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:06 pm

So over the past several months I've added several pieces on to my standard kit. Additonal high and low toms. A cymbol or 2, and chimes, cowbell, and woodblock.

I was really comfertable on my old setup and since adding things I'm feeling more awkward back there. I'm wondering how you guys tend to setup your larger kits so they work for you rather that getting in your way.

Here's what I'm working with: 14 snare, 22 bass drum, 8, 10, 12, 14 rack toms, 16 floor tom. 14 hihats, 6, 8 splashes, 16, 17 crashes, 16 china, 18 crash ride, 20 ride. Cowbell, jam block and chimes.

This is how I was setup before getting more splashes and the effects. http://drumgods.home.comcast.net/pdplayout.jpg I'm really just looking for suggestions on how to improve my setup and to get a look at other setups.

I made that picture using DW's drumset layout thinggy. I'll get real pictures when I get some time.

GSR · Unread post by **GSR** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:07 pm

Carter's is massive. I don't know where to get that diagram though. Someone will post it.

3vil0n3 · Unread post by **3vil0n3** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:08 pm

I'm not really trying to copy Carter, though I do realize Its starting to look a lot like his.

jsgksu · Unread post by **jsgksu** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:15 pm

01. Yamaha 22"x18" recording custom kick
02. Yamaha 8" tom
03. Yamaha 10" tom
04. Yamaha 12" tom
05. Yamaha 14" tom
06. Yamaha 18" floor tom
07. 13"x51/2" Ocheltree bronze snare
08. 13" Ocheltree bronze timbale
09. 14" Ocheltree bronze timbale
10. Zildjian 13" Z Dyno Beat hi-hat (on top) over 13" K Top Hi-hat (on bottom)
11. Zildjian 13" A Custom Projection Hi-hats
12. Zildjian 18" Oriental Trash Crash
13. Zildjian 14" K Dark Thin Crash
14. Zildjian 20" A Custom Flat Ride
15. Zildjian 20" A Custom Projection Ride
16. Zildjian 6" Zil-Bel
17. Chinese wedding bell
18. Zildjian 18" K Dark Medium Thin Crash
19. Zildjian 17" K Dark Medium Thin Crash
20. Zildjian 10" A Custom Splash
21. Zildjian 9" Oriental Trash Splash
22. Zildjian 10" A Extra Thin Splash
23. Zildjian 14" K Dark Thin Crash
24. Zildjian 8" A Splash (piggyback on #22)
25. Zildjian 22" Oriental China Trash
26. Zildjian 20" Oriental China Trash (piggyback on #25)
27. Zildjian 20" Oriental Crash Of Doom
28. Zildjian 30" Hand Hammered Gong

3vil0n3 · Unread post by **3vil0n3** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:19 pm

The best diagram I know of Carters kit is at http://www.beaufordbuddy.com/cbhomepage/drum_kit.htm but like I said, I'm not trying to copy him. I just want to hear from drummers with large kits and find out how they get by.

GSR · Unread post by **GSR** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:34 pm

I knew jayme would take care of the pic.

carter29 · Unread post by **carter29** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:57 pm

what kind of stands you got man?
your going to need boom stands for a few of those cymbals, and whatdo you have for your blocks? and what type of blocks?

the eyes upon us · Unread post by **the eyes upon us** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:48 pm

ive been playing huge kits for a long time. and i really think the best way to set up a kit is symmetrically. i always used two kicks, but you can do it with one. three rack toms on top (id suggest the 10 first, then the 8, then the 12), id put that 14 with your 16 on the floor, or put your 14 on your left as a floor tom (for bass hits or accents). all your splashes stacked in front of you above your rack toms, your crashes above those but mounted on the outside edges of your kit, id suggest buying another china, and mounting those above your crashes to your sides (i.e. in line with your floor tom and a little behind your hi hats). and your ride mounted a little behind your floor tom. little trick of the trade i found, if you mount your ride at an extreme angle, ive found it easier to play it faster with your arm angled to the side instead of playing straight on top of it. not sure about chimes and jam blocks, ive always played death metal/grindcore so ive never needed 'em, but i imagine you could mount them next to your hi hats, maybe jam blocks in between your hi hats and snare. this set up has always helped me keep everything in line and easy to remember when things got technical. hope this helps you some.

carter29 · Unread post by **carter29** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:51 pm

it's all about personal preference, what he said is a good starting point, then adjust to your likings. I like my blocks to the upper right of my hit hat, my cowbell is mounted on my bass drum above my right leg.

3vil0n3 · Unread post by **3vil0n3** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:55 pm

Pretty much all of my stands are boom stands. I'm a little limited because 2 of my toms have to be attached to cymbal stands. I've been used to my 8 spash next to my hihats for so long it's really messing me up to put it anywhere else.

I've tried the symmetrical root before and I just don't think it's for me. My real problem seems to be I just keep adding on off to the right and have to practically turn around to get to the lowest tom.

Thanks for the suggestions though.

carter29 · Unread post by **carter29** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:23 pm

man That DW thing is aweosme I was always looking for something like that on the net, I'll post my kit set up and a suggestion for yours later

waffle_house_jam · Unread post by **waffle_house_jam** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:27 pm

Danny Carey's setup.

carter29 · Unread post by **carter29** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:46 pm

I keep my splash night to my high hat as well, i will always have one there I dont think I could move it from there, try having a crash above that as best as you can. it would be hard to keep adding stuff to the right, maybe pratice using your left hand on crash hit and have one to the left, since you have boom stands you can vary the elevation of cymbals to put them were you want them

as for blocks, i like them near where my splash goes, percussion stuff like that tends to go towards the left. I dont have experiance with chimes, it would be used less I would assume then most of your stuff, perhaps try that out of the way to either your left or right, depending on which hand will be needed for how you wanna use it

try the bass drum attachment for the cowbell, it is convienent for both hands, especially if you are comfortable with open and crossed sticked playing. Being versitile will help you have more options when deciding where to put equipment

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:02 pm

Since when was there anything wrong with what I got?

Only I have an that in addition to a 18" Bass drum (depending on what Im playing), and my Zildjian K's. God I love my set.

bassman462 · Unread post by **bassman462** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:30 pm

ill take a pic of my brothers set sometime tonight or today. and ill put a pic up.

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