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Unread post by musicalman865 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:10 pm

i apologize if this is a stupid question, i don't know, but is it a good idea to use live song books, like "live in chicago" and "live at luther college" to give a good idea of how to play these songs and the strumming patterns? even though dave uses variation of strumming and such.

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Unread post by Brock » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:11 pm

Not unless you can read sheet music very well. You listen to the song to get the strumming, and you look at this site to learn how to play it.
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Unread post by musicalman865 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:07 pm

bbatsell wrote:Not unless you can read sheet music very well. You listen to the song to get the strumming, and you look at this site to learn how to play it.
i can read sheet music for guitar, because i have been taking lessons for over two years, but i guess for me its a good idea to look at the books, this site, listen, and to watch shows to be as accurate as possible

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Unread post by shess22 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:48 pm

bbatsell wrote:look at this site to learn how to play it.

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Unread post by charliemike » Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:27 am

I disagree with learning via tablature. I wish I had the ability to read sheet music for guitar. I'm still working on it.

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Unread post by Brock » Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:36 am

charliemike wrote:I disagree with learning via tablature. I wish I had the ability to read sheet music for guitar. I'm still working on it.

I feel like half the player I should be because of it. It's a crutch ... And effective one but a crutch nevertheless ...
Well, the music in those books is completely wrong. I agree, I hate guitar tabs, but these are the only ones that actually teach you the song correctly.
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Unread post by musicalman865 » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:43 pm

bbatsell wrote:
charliemike wrote:I disagree with learning via tablature. I wish I had the ability to read sheet music for guitar. I'm still working on it.

I feel like half the player I should be because of it. It's a crutch ... And effective one but a crutch nevertheless ...
Well, the music in those books is completely wrong. I agree, I hate guitar tabs, but these are the only ones that actually teach you the song correctly.
how do they even make those song books?

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Unread post by Brock » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:45 pm

Whatever company makes them (usually Cherry Lane) has musicians that sit and listen to the album and tab out what they hear. No member of the band is involved, if that's what you're asking.
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Unread post by Dutch » Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:46 pm

musicalman865 wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
charliemike wrote:I disagree with learning via tablature. I wish I had the ability to read sheet music for guitar. I'm still working on it.

I feel like half the player I should be because of it. It's a crutch ... And effective one but a crutch nevertheless ...
Well, the music in those books is completely wrong. I agree, I hate guitar tabs, but these are the only ones that actually teach you the song correctly.
how do they even make those song books?
I dont know, probably just sit and listen. I had a guitar teacher who was tabbing out jimi thing for me, he had about three different ways tio play it that sounded right. It was crazy, so eary song can be played a different way.
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Unread post by sunglassesatnight » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:48 am

Dutch17 wrote:
musicalman865 wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
charliemike wrote:I disagree with learning via tablature. I wish I had the ability to read sheet music for guitar. I'm still working on it.

I feel like half the player I should be because of it. It's a crutch ... And effective one but a crutch nevertheless ...
Well, the music in those books is completely wrong. I agree, I hate guitar tabs, but these are the only ones that actually teach you the song correctly.
how do they even make those song books?
I dont know, probably just sit and listen. I had a guitar teacher who was tabbing out jimi thing for me, he had about three different ways tio play it that sounded right. It was crazy, so eary song can be played a different way.
That's the thing about guitar. Each note or chord has a good number of different positions it can be played and still be the same note or chord.

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Unread post by ericwormann » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:07 pm

Learning sheet music is nice, knowing tabs is fine, but ultimately not having to use music at all is probably the best. Sheet music is overrated.

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Unread post by Grachi » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:10 am

winglet82 wrote:Learning sheet music is nice, knowing tabs is fine, but ultimately not having to use music at all is probably the best. Sheet music is overrated.
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Unread post by musicalman865 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:27 pm

Grachi wrote:
winglet82 wrote:Learning sheet music is nice, knowing tabs is fine, but ultimately not having to use music at all is probably the best. Sheet music is overrated.
yea, ik what u mean, but learning theory and shit is always ur best bet for soloing and shit, there are definetly exceptions, u dont have to know music and theory to be a great guitarist, but anyones better off just learning something from theory and reading

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Unread post by Jester29 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:51 pm

winglet82 wrote:Learning sheet music is nice, knowing tabs is fine, but ultimately not having to use music at all is probably the best. Sheet music is overrated.
Wow... I couldn't disagree more. I guess if you just want to play for fun and don't plan on doing much with it, then fine.

If you really want to be a musician, want to play with other musicians, want to be able to learn new songs and solo, then I think you really need to know how to read music. You also need to understand at least some basic theory; I don't know that's possible without being able to read music.

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