Whats the hardest dmb song/groove on the drums?

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:41 pm

i am sam2 wrote:ok, i got a question for beau and you drummers out there...when youre makin up a drum part to a song, do you think like "ok, i want to do off beat tom hits with a syncopated snare pattern and a 2/4 bass drum double roll" etc(i just made up those words i dont know if they mean something related to drumming so dont get mad at me for that)? or do you just like, play what you want it to sound like and then afterward you decide what it is exactly? do some do it some way and others other ways? how does carter do it?
We wont know what Carter does...cause we arent Carter.

When I hear something, chances are..Ill think of a tune it sounds similar to or reminds me of. Then Ill think of "who was that drummer?". That will be my modivation. Other then that, me and my band just kinda jam for a while. I just do what I think sounds best and is best fit.
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Unread post by carter29 » Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:35 pm

On the Under table and drumming video, carter seems to discribe what you just said Beauford33...he says dave will come up with a melody and carter says "oh that sounds like james taylor, or paul simon, or sting/police and i will do a stewart copeland thing for that part, etc." Carter says that happens alot but not always. And sometimes other bandmembers may have suggestions, for example, Leroi Moore had the idea for the snare hits at the start of ants marching.

But i would say one should do what they feel the song calls for and then afterwards you could figure out what it is.
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:52 pm

carter29 wrote:On the Under table and drumming video, carter seems to discribe what you just said Beauford33...he says dave will come up with a melody and carter says "oh that sounds like james taylor, or paul simon, or sting/police and i will do a stewart copeland thing for that part, etc." Carter says that happens alot but not always. And sometimes other bandmembers may have suggestions, for example, Leroi Moore had the idea for the snare hits at the start of ants marching.
But i would say one should do what they feel the song calls for and then afterwards you could figure out what it is.
I know,......I have tHe DVD
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Re: Whats the hardest dmb song/groove on the drums?

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carter29 wrote:This is just for fun....any ideas?
I used to think say goodbye, but after seeing the under the table and drumming video it was simplified.
I am leaning towards drive in drive out grooves, seek up's verses
or how bout pay for what you get (if you try to stick to excately what carter does, its just hard to remeber some parts) or even some parts from pig & spoon, just wondering folks
It's funny, i'm a guitarist, in a DMB cover band (yes we do origninals too) but the only song our drummer really has trouble with is Say Goodbye. My sax player plays flute for that one, and we do the extended drum intro but once we get into the song, the downbeat seems to disappear. I don't know if it just that the drummer has a hard time, or he is trying to complicate things a bit, cuz he rocks on every thing else. Oh well.......

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:28 pm

gregplaysguitar wrote:
carter29 wrote:This is just for fun....any ideas?
I used to think say goodbye, but after seeing the under the table and drumming video it was simplified.
I am leaning towards drive in drive out grooves, seek up's verses
or how bout pay for what you get (if you try to stick to excately what carter does, its just hard to remeber some parts) or even some parts from pig & spoon, just wondering folks
It's funny, i'm a guitarist, in a DMB cover band (yes we do origninals too) but the only song our drummer really has trouble with is Say Goodbye. My sax player plays flute for that one, and we do the extended drum intro but once we get into the song, the downbeat seems to disappear. I don't know if it just that the drummer has a hard time, or he is trying to complicate things a bit, cuz he rocks on every thing else. Oh well.......
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Unread post by GSR » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:44 pm

i believe funny, in this context, means "odd".
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GSRLessard14 wrote:i believe funny, in this context, means "odd".
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:54 pm

GSRLessard14 wrote:i believe funny, in this context, means "odd".
oh, okay. Yea it is odd. I find it hard to believe a guy can play (im guessing all , if not most) DMB songs on drums and not be able to play Sya Goodbye.
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Unread post by carter29 » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:32 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
GSRLessard14 wrote:i believe funny, in this context, means "odd".
oh, okay. Yea it is odd. I find it hard to believe a guy can play (im guessing all , if not most) DMB songs on drums and not be able to play Sya Goodbye.
True....maybe of all the songs he CAN play that one gives him the hardest time...it sounds harder than it is
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:39 pm

carter29 wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
GSRLessard14 wrote:i believe funny, in this context, means "odd".
oh, okay. Yea it is odd. I find it hard to believe a guy can play (im guessing all , if not most) DMB songs on drums and not be able to play Sya Goodbye.
True....maybe of all the songs he CAN play that one gives him the hardest time...it sounds harder than it is
not really
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Unread post by carter29 » Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:12 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
carter29 wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
GSRLessard14 wrote:i believe funny, in this context, means "odd".
oh, okay. Yea it is odd. I find it hard to believe a guy can play (im guessing all , if not most) DMB songs on drums and not be able to play Sya Goodbye.
True....maybe of all the songs he CAN play that one gives him the hardest time...it sounds harder than it is
not really
What do you mean?
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Unread post by i like tictacs » Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:12 pm

bk is a self proclaimed drum god which means he knows all
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:02 pm

i like tictacs wrote:bk is a self proclaimed drum god which means he knows all
I know some things.
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Unread post by shess22 » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:31 am

i think beauford needs to chill out, your freaking out at everything anyone says....why

im not a drummer, but i'm trying to show my drummer-friend how good carter is... what song(s) should i have him listen to

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:38 pm

shess22 wrote:i think beauford needs to chill out, your freaking out at everything anyone says....why

im not a drummer, but i'm trying to show my drummer-friend how good carter is... what song(s) should i have him listen to
any live song with a drum solo. So Two Step jam or the end of Grey Street. Though, for the very very end of two step...Id somehow try to write out the thirty-second note triplets he is doing. I have it written out but I cant do that kind of thing over the computer. If he sees that and trys to play it up to speed, he will see the difficulty.
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