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filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:56 am

Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:because of tab? that post was hard to decipher.
just the fact people ignore a simple tool like counting
Yeah, things like counting, writing music, etc. are very important...but many ppl concentrate on those things, forgetting that music is FEELING first of all...
yea, it is. but its important to find the most efficient way to express your feelings. You can be pissed, pick up a guitar with little knowledge and play something "okay". learn theory and the essentials and have a feeling and express that on a guitar with the knowledge, you will be amazing.
I dont think you really need to learn theory and essentials...It's important to find your way of playing, and this could even be opposite to the theory...
okay, Id like you to find some that knows theory and essentials, and find someone that doesnt (not too hard around these parts) and have them play something out of feeling. I will bet an incredible amount that the person with the knowledge of theory will sound like god next to the other person. Im all for "feeling", but you should understand something so you can express yourself the best way.
It comes from the fact that most times ppl that know theory and essentials have been playing more than ppl dont know that stuff...

Beauford33 wrote:yea opposite of theory=ignorant guitarist that deams of making it big, but never bothers to look at something other then tabs.
I meant that u dont need to know theory to play...u just need to know some scales and u can even create your own stuff...
The example are The Beatles...they sucked in playing and they didnt know much theory...but they create something new...and it was VERY GOOD...

Anyway, I'm for theory too...I have been studying classical music (not very much...but i did and i got the essentials! )

what tha fuck do you think scales are?

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:26 am

you can know one chord and create stuff,

the fact doesn't change that you need at least a general idea of thoery to have any idea of how to apply that "stuff" to make it sound good and not shitty

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:31 pm

Sciaracastro wrote: I meant that u dont need to know theory to play...u just need to know some scales and u can even create your own stuff...
The example are The Beatles...they sucked in playing and they didnt know much theory...but they create something new...and it was VERY GOOD...

Anyway, I'm for theory too...I have been studying classical music (not very much...but i did and i got the essentials! )

are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:45 pm

Scales are just a little part of theory...

fatjack wrote:are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...

I'm not saying that the beatles and george harrison were shits and that they didnt know what were they doing...I'm just saying that they just knew essentials and most of their songs were quite simple...and that is enough to play very good songs...i really like the beatles anyway! :wink:

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:48 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:Scales are just a little part of theory...

fatjack wrote:are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...
I'm not saying that the beatles and george harrison were shits and that they didnt know what were they doing...I'm just saying that they just knew essentials and most of their songs were quite simple...and that is enough to play very good songs...i really like the beatles anyway!

either way, i still dont think that you really understand what theory is. You dont need a knowledge of theory to create music, but theory applies to all music. so your phrase "the opposite of theory" is really quite ridiculous

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:16 pm

dude, just give up. you cant win. you need to know theory to be a good guitrist.

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:39 pm

fatjack wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:Scales are just a little part of theory...

fatjack wrote:are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...
I'm not saying that the beatles and george harrison were shits and that they didnt know what were they doing...I'm just saying that they just knew essentials and most of their songs were quite simple...and that is enough to play very good songs...i really like the beatles anyway!
either way, i still dont think that you really understand what theory is. You dont need a knowledge of theory to create music, but theory applies to all music. so your phrase "the opposite of theory" is really quite ridiculous

I just wrote bad...I meant that u can create something revolutionary that could be very very very different from the music already exists...
...listen...Jimi Hendrix played w/ his guitar reversed, Kurt Cobain could play only few chords, and I can continue citing Slash or Jimmy Page...they all didnt know the "classic" theory, but does their music sux?!
Peace

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:00 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:Scales are just a little part of theory...

fatjack wrote:are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...
I'm not saying that the beatles and george harrison were shits and that they didnt know what were they doing...I'm just saying that they just knew essentials and most of their songs were quite simple...and that is enough to play very good songs...i really like the beatles anyway!

simplicity means nothing, paul simmons stuff isnt hard, but its amazingly beautiful. same with many musicials, you dont need to be tim reynolds, or jmmy page to be an amazing musician.

StarSlight · Unread post by **StarSlight** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:16 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:counting can get a bit more tricky then going to four
i know, but were talking BK, he thinks everything is 4/4
Im so damn close to e-slapping you right now.

if anything, I thought you would have said 12/8

Ive been thinking about making a Comprehensive list of all Daves songs and their time signatures. Unfortunatley, they would just appear as useless fractions to most people

I personally would love a list of time signatures. I'm attempting to get into odd meters (so I can start a Meshuggah cover band :wink:

), and I'm trying to find all the musical examples I can.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:20 pm

StarSlight wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:counting can get a bit more tricky then going to four
i know, but were talking BK, he thinks everything is 4/4
Im so damn close to e-slapping you right now.

if anything, I thought you would have said 12/8

Ive been thinking about making a Comprehensive list of all Daves songs and their time signatures. Unfortunatley, they would just appear as useless fractions to most people
I personally would love a list of time signatures. I'm attempting to get into odd meters (so I can start a Meshuggah cover band ), and I'm trying to find all the musical examples I can.

well, I can give the time signaures, but that would do little. I could give some time signatures and a list of songs that have those sigs.

btw, going out and thinking "this song is gonna be an odd time, cause I need soemthing idfferent" wont work out like you think.

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:22 pm

filmdude100cms wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:Scales are just a little part of theory...

fatjack wrote:are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...
I'm not saying that the beatles and george harrison were shits and that they didnt know what were they doing...I'm just saying that they just knew essentials and most of their songs were quite simple...and that is enough to play very good songs...i really like the beatles anyway!
simplicity means nothing, paul simmons stuff isnt hard, but its amazingly beautiful. same with many musicials, you dont need to be tim reynolds, or jmmy page to be an amazing musician.

I cant understand if u agree or not w/ me...

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:22 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:Scales are just a little part of theory...

fatjack wrote:are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...
I'm not saying that the beatles and george harrison were shits and that they didnt know what were they doing...I'm just saying that they just knew essentials and most of their songs were quite simple...and that is enough to play very good songs...i really like the beatles anyway!
simplicity means nothing, paul simmons stuff isnt hard, but its amazingly beautiful. same with many musicials, you dont need to be tim reynolds, or jmmy page to be an amazing musician.
I cant understand if u agree or not w/ me...

good god man, stop fighting this battle

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:27 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:Scales are just a little part of theory...

fatjack wrote:are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...
I'm not saying that the beatles and george harrison were shits and that they didnt know what were they doing...I'm just saying that they just knew essentials and most of their songs were quite simple...and that is enough to play very good songs...i really like the beatles anyway!
simplicity means nothing, paul simmons stuff isnt hard, but its amazingly beautiful. same with many musicials, you dont need to be tim reynolds, or jmmy page to be an amazing musician.
...do u think Hendrix was a shit?

I cant understand if u agree or not w/ me...
good god man, stop fighting this battle

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:28 pm

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:32 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:
fatjack wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:Scales are just a little part of theory...

fatjack wrote:are you fucking kidding me? the beatles sucked in playing and didn't know anything about theory? george harrison is one of the most innovative guitarists ever, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just pull shit out of thin air...
I'm not saying that the beatles and george harrison were shits and that they didnt know what were they doing...I'm just saying that they just knew essentials and most of their songs were quite simple...and that is enough to play very good songs...i really like the beatles anyway!
either way, i still dont think that you really understand what theory is. You dont need a knowledge of theory to create music, but theory applies to all music. so your phrase "the opposite of theory" is really quite ridiculous
I just wrote bad...I meant that u can create something revolutionary that could be very very very different from the music already exists...
...listen...Jimi Hendrix played w/ his guitar reversed, Kurt Cobain could play only few chords, and I can continue citing Slash or Jimmy Page...they all didnt know the "classic" theory, but does their music sux?!
Peace

so you are saying theory only applies to music that has already been done or isn't creative?

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