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JonTheSpaceMan · Unread post by **JonTheSpaceMan** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:52 pm

i have a set of a few songs mostly from crash on back to remember two things

i want to sing them for ppl and have a good time with them but how when where do i play?

it seems ppl get bored hearing just a person sing on accoustic.

GuitarGuy305 · Unread post by **GuitarGuy305** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:06 pm

I think that's true to a point. Some people are in to it. I've played gigs where I have had everyone's attention, and ones where 50% were doing their own thing and not really paying attention. I've got writing setlists down to a science. If you're playing Dave covers, you can't go:

I'll Back You Up
Crash
Let You Down
Stay Or Leave...

or you will put people to sleep, unless they're die hard DMB fans, or girls. You need to mix it up.

I write a setlist, then I write an S next to a song that is slower, and an F next to a song that is faster or more upbeat. Then I rearrange the songs. If I have two S's in a row, I throw and F in there. I also try to pepper my set with covers, but not play more than 20-25% covers. You have to get your originals out there too.

I am trying to get a band together. A band is much more appealing that a solo acoustic performer to the masses.

Adam

JonTheSpaceMan · Unread post by **JonTheSpaceMan** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:11 pm

i played one set for one girl on a perfect night

ants
original (fast song)
stay or leave---> (stnd tunning)
crash
two step
original (slow)
Billies

got me laid

it was really fun and i want to share with others and have a good time. i just cant find the right time or anything.

i want to start a band too but everyone around here is not very good at all and if they are they have no writing ability. they are restricted to sheet music which pisses me off way too much

Kukini · Unread post by **Kukini** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:37 pm

Stay or Leave makes them melt right before your eyes. Find gigs, I have one tonight that I was thinking of doing, an open mic at a local bar, but I don't wanna sing solo cuz my voice sucks, but just look around, there are more oppotunities than you'd think!

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:24 am

if your doin dave, stay or leave is a nice way to come in, and seek up is a good way to leave.... what i do, is i dont try to let songs in the same key go right after each other, billies is in a, so i would want to go to crush that is in b, and so on and so forth, and if you do what i did wher to go in order, a-b-c-d-e-f-g, it really really builds excitement and anticipation and what not, until you can bring it on home with the song in g. even if you have some slow songs in there, as long as you switch keys for everysong itll be very interesting and pleasing to watch....

infact phish did this, back in the 90's when they would play for 90 or so minutes straight, every song would be a step higher until the end when the anticipation had built and everyone was goin crazy.

JonTheSpaceMan · Unread post by **JonTheSpaceMan** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:30 am

lack of musical knowledge here. i dont know keys, notes, scales, or anything other than "hey that sounds cool"

so i dont really know how to build up other than play with more and more emotions

i would like to learn one day but right now i dont feel like reading

i have heard you play though and its pretty good. i give you respect good sir

Jer1400 · Unread post by **Jer1400** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:19 pm

Actually, with that progression you should end on A. Basic rules of a cadence, man. Though I'm not sure if it would be appreciated or noticed as much when you're playing a setlist like that. Eh.

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:41 pm

Jer1400 wrote:Actually, with that progression you should end on A. Basic rules of a cadence, man. Though I'm not sure if it would be appreciated or noticed as much when you're playing a setlist like that. Eh.

i have no idea, i was basically just usin it for example purposes, cause i dont really like know the keys for dave songs, just dont think about them for some reason, but i mean if you wanna open with billies, see its something id do, cause i have an original that uses the nature intro form, and end on that... sooooo thats just me...

and jon, im 14, please dont call me good sir, creeps me out :lol:

kcw · Unread post by **kcw** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:44 am

JonTheSpaceMan wrote:lack of musical knowledge here. i dont know keys, notes, scales, or anything other than "hey that sounds cool"

so i dont really know how to build up other than play with more and more emotions

i would like to learn one day but right now i dont feel like reading

i have heard you play though and its pretty good. i give you respect good sir

If you dont have that knowledge you might want to start learning theory. Basic theory is extremely easy to teach yourself. Makes composing music tons easier with the knowledge of scales. Its also the first step in learning improvistation. Just scales. Makes the simpliest thing sound amazing.

JonTheSpaceMan · Unread post by **JonTheSpaceMan** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:55 am

my name is mike. not jon. im not a space man to dissapoint a few.

no more.

i am thinking about it. i think as i play with more people they teach me more and more so one day i will get it.

i like playing whatever the hell though

kcw · Unread post by **kcw** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:01 pm

Keep learning. Cause then the range of whatever the hell will get bigger cause you will know more and be more skilled with it. If that makes sense.

6_strings_for_life · Unread post by **6_strings_for_life** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:51 pm

kcw, i am a decent guitar player and I also have no theory knowledge at all.. is there a place on the net that has like a teacher thing?

kcw · Unread post by **kcw** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:40 pm

I didnt learn from the internet i bought a book. But the most basic thing i know you can find is scales and modes. Look up the Penatonic or Blues scale. That is what I use the most when soloing and improving. The book I use is called Playing Guitar Scales by Peter Pickow. Of course there is more to theory than just scales, scales are the most basic part of it. After scales you can learn how to create chords and all.Its pretty cool once you get the hang of it. Though I'm sorry i cant tell you any specific sites.

DMBTabs.com

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