they do NOT stay in tune better, it is impossible for a guitar with a floating bridge to stay in tune better than a guitar that has strings through the bodykopie101 wrote:ok...so far, what ive gathered (of actual info, not just like "i dont like them" that doesnt count) is that gibson les pauls....
1. stay in tune better/best
2. are put together as good or better than any guitar
3. have gold plated electronics to help eliminate unwanted noise and help transfer frequencies
so now ive come to conclude it is cheaper to just buy the cheapest model you like looking at(i.e. epiphone les paul or squire strat or whatever) and then get like 400 dollars worth of work done on the electronics, etc. and youre guitar is just as good as any? sounds fishy to me
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Not even a Casino (which I am getting)? What about any Eilite lines? What about an Eilite Casino? Those are high and good quality.shane wrote:this is true, but id still never buy an epi.Ranting Thespian wrote:Well, squire, the don't last long, physicly. The necks bend easily, and, well, everything about them is made bad. Epiphone bodies are built better. Not as good as Gibson, but Epis will withstand nicely.
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i dont really need a hollowbody electric... i think thats a hollowhody right?Ranting Thespian wrote:Not even a Casino (which I am getting)? What about any Eilite lines? What about an Eilite Casino? Those are high and good quality.shane wrote:this is true, but id still never buy an epi.Ranting Thespian wrote:Well, squire, the don't last long, physicly. The necks bend easily, and, well, everything about them is made bad. Epiphone bodies are built better. Not as good as Gibson, but Epis will withstand nicely.
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If you go buy a new Fender (even the American ones) you're doing yourself a disservice.
Go find a high end guitar shop and get a vintage Strat instead. Even if it's a bit more money (though I'm not totally sure), it's worth it as the guitar is superior in every way.
If I was serious about an electric because I played live, there's no way I'd even consider a modern Gibson/Epiphone/Fender. I'd go vintage and perhaps replace the pickups.
Go find a high end guitar shop and get a vintage Strat instead. Even if it's a bit more money (though I'm not totally sure), it's worth it as the guitar is superior in every way.
If I was serious about an electric because I played live, there's no way I'd even consider a modern Gibson/Epiphone/Fender. I'd go vintage and perhaps replace the pickups.
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My Studio is a '01. It sounds and plays great. I have never had a problem with it. Everyone who plays it loves it. Also, I really like the new Standards with the new necks. I prefer my Studio to the Standard, but the new Standards with the new necks and a few more things is very nice.charliemike wrote:there's no way I'd even consider a modern Gibson/Epiphone/Fender
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Wow, some interesting 'facts' here 
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I've owned a lot of Les Pauls. They are great guitars for getting the Les Paul sound. Guitars are tools just like a hammer or a screwdriver. Arbitrarily claiming that 'screwdrivers suck and hammers rule' is shortchanging yourself as a musician. Get as many cool and unique instruments as you can in order to create as many cool and unique tones as possible. Artists don't paint with just one color, why should you limit yourself as a musician?
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I've owned a lot of Les Pauls. They are great guitars for getting the Les Paul sound. Guitars are tools just like a hammer or a screwdriver. Arbitrarily claiming that 'screwdrivers suck and hammers rule' is shortchanging yourself as a musician. Get as many cool and unique instruments as you can in order to create as many cool and unique tones as possible. Artists don't paint with just one color, why should you limit yourself as a musician?
Just MHO, of course

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Teles, ES-XXX, Les Pauls, and Strats are totally different sounding guitars, none are "better then the other" its all preference just like the never ending Taylor vs Martin or Dave vs JM. People should learn to respect each others opinions a bit more, and uhhh maybe make a better argument then "Fenders suck" because I dont see those wasteful posts doing anything positive, just MO of course.
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