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johntherevelator · Unread post by **johntherevelator** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:03 pm

im 99% sure that in the standard tuning version of what you are, the 3rd chord is 222xxx, not 221xxx

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:19 pm

i think you are wrong on this one....th 2-2-1-x-x-x sounds better....IMO

johntherevelator · Unread post by **johntherevelator** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:24 pm

maybe its my guitar but the 221 sounds like complete and utter ass

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:28 pm

johntherevelator wrote:maybe its my guitar but the 221 sounds like complete and utter ass

maybe it's mine but 222 sounds like ass :lol:

johntherevelator · Unread post by **johntherevelator** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:30 pm

i dunno
probably mine
i need new strings anyway

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:33 pm

johntherevelator wrote:i dunno
probably mine
i need new strings anyway

maybe...but i just played it and i'm 100% sure it's already right on the site...

We'll see what others have to say though...

Peace,

mac4140 · Unread post by **mac4140** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 12:57 am

yeah my 221 sounds like butt too...i've tried a 224 or just a -24...i don't know...but 221 does smell sometimes

Unread post by **jkanter** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 1:49 am

To put this arguement to rest.

The one on the site is 100% correct, whether it sounds good to you or not. To make it sound better, try hit ONLY the top 3 strings and not even muting the rest....that should help with the sound. I do agree it doesn't always sound good to me either but when I realize I hit ONLY the top 3 strings it sounds PERFECT

REASONING FOR 221:
Baritone tuning is 5 half-steps(frets on the guitar) lower that standard tuning. I don't know the actual terminology so that might be wrong....sue me.

Anyway, to convert from Baritone to Standard tuning you move each note down 5 frets on the guitar. Now, this can't techically be done for an open-A chord as it is on the 2nd fret. But take a look at this......If you move 5 frets down on the same string.....then use normal guitar knowledge to know that if you move one string up and 5-frets up, it is the same note. So essentially if you have:
7onA -----> 5 frets down on same string
2onA -----> 5 frets up and up 1 string
7onE

You end up with the same fret as the original note but 1 string up. So we take the top two 2's and move them up 1 string to the E&A strings...they stay on the 2nd fret. Move the 1onG up 1 string so it's 1onD.....FINAL DECISION

2-2-1

Now the thing that causes most problems with people's understanding is that if we do the same thing...but START on the B string(the bottom 2 in the open-A chord) ...it turned out like this
7onB -----> 5 frets down on same string
2onB -----> 4 frets up and up 1 string
6onD

We only move 4 frets up because basic guitar knowledge tells us that when going from the G->B or B->G you only move 4 frets down or up(respectively) in order to get the same note. This essentially is like moving 1 string up and 1 fret down.

That doesn't apply to this case but it is just there to help you out w/ the rest of your conversions.

I hope everyone has enjoyed "Baritone -> Standard Conversion 101" Lemme know if anyone has anything here to correct...peace all

DMBFreak84 · Unread post by **DMBFreak84** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:31 am

yep, kanter's completely right....
ive been playing the 221 chord all the time and i have to be careful when i hit the three strings and not hit anything else because the open d string above the a sounds like crap when its hit in addition to the chord....

johntherevelator · Unread post by **johntherevelator** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:04 pm

jkanter wrote:To put this arguement to rest.

The one on the site is 100% correct, whether it sounds good to you or not. To make it sound better, try hit ONLY the top 3 strings and not even muting the rest....that should help with the sound. I do agree it doesn't always sound good to me either but when I realize I hit ONLY the top 3 strings it sounds PERFECT

REASONING FOR 221:
Baritone tuning is 5 half-steps(frets on the guitar) lower that standard tuning. I don't know the actual terminology so that might be wrong....sue me.

Anyway, to convert from Baritone to Standard tuning you move each note down 5 frets on the guitar. Now, this can't techically be done for an open-A chord as it is on the 2nd fret. But take a look at this......If you move 5 frets down on the same string.....then use normal guitar knowledge to know that if you move one string up and 5-frets up, it is the same note. So essentially if you have:
7onA -----> 5 frets down on same string
2onA -----> 5 frets up and up 1 string
7onE

You end up with the same fret as the original note but 1 string up. So we take the top two 2's and move them up 1 string to the E&A strings...they stay on the 2nd fret. Move the 1onG up 1 string so it's 1onD.....FINAL DECISION

2-2-1

Now the thing that causes most problems with people's understanding is that if we do the same thing...but START on the B string(the bottom 2 in the open-A chord) ...it turned out like this
7onB -----> 5 frets down on same string
2onB -----> 4 frets up and up 1 string
6onD

We only move 4 frets up because basic guitar knowledge tells us that when going from the G->B or B->G you only move 4 frets down or up(respectively) in order to get the same note. This essentially is like moving 1 string up and 1 fret down.

That doesn't apply to this case but it is just there to help you out w/ the rest of your conversions.

I hope everyone has enjoyed "Baritone -> Standard Conversion 101" Lemme know if anyone has anything here to correct...peace all

ya man youre right
it sounds better when you only hit the top 3 strings
i think maybe the partial reason it doesnt sound quite as good is because youre not getting that low b of the baritone in there

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