Dave and rolling stone magazine

[Evan]

mainstream yes

but who cares?

Sounds like those kids who are like "I am awesome and above you because I listen to music that 5 other people have heard and that makes me artistic, original, and obviously I have a better taste in music then you"



i listen to whatever sounds good to me so i dont care what they sell or however popular they are.

Do I listen to classical music and shit like Boyz II Men? yes. do guys fuck with me because I do? yes. Do I care? No. It's better then listening to something you don't want to listen to, but you do just because you feel like you should...

you read that with some sort of intention to re-interpret the question at hand. there was nothing else to it. there was no judgment passed of any sort based on the quality or "coolness" associated with those who listen to mainstream music. the fact of the matter is dmb is a mainstream band. boyz II men??? ok, but they were mainstream at some point too. i might bust on you about listening to them, but to each their own, everyone here no matter who posts has a guilty pleasure that they enjoy listening to and that is the beauty of music/ art in general. art even if it is produced in a collective setting is meant to be enjoyed in an individual setting, and it is all left up to interpretation. there is never a total concensus on an artistic form, everyone is a hack and everyone is a hero, that just comes with the territory.

Bravo.

However, I think the original notion of mainstream in this forum was attached to an idea of DMB being some sort of pop icon. While the band is undoubtably mainstream by definition and by their immense success, they've managed to achieve that status in a much more subtle way than most of the other "mainstream acts" out there. Consider all the other mainstream acts that try not only to sell themselves and their music, but they sell an image. DMB does ABSOLUTLEY MINIMAL advertising for anything they release, they grew their fanbase through hardwork and word-of-mouth, and most importantly, by being themselves and writing the music that they wanna write. The band has never sold out to anything (for those of you who would mention Stand Up at this point, get over it, as much as we all wanna blame Batson for that one, it was just a slump). So my point is, that yeah, they are mainstream, but in very different way, one that I tend to respect a little more than most others out there.

[c_tietze]

I think it would be naive to say or hope DMB is still not a mainstream act. Any major label act that tours so often and has print, t.v. and film appearances is nothing less than a mainstream act. That's one of the great things about DMB, the band's propularity is bred from a grass roots following, and underground following, i.e. indie, alternative, etc. Now to say that DMB is anything less than a mainstream act such as U2, Coldplay, Justin Timberlake, etc. is misinformed or one of those people that still holds onto the "good ole" days of DMB back in the late 90's as when the music and experience was "really good".

And I have to say again the Rolling Stone is devoid of anything really well written and honestly it's just a vehicle of Madison Avenue telling people with disposable income who they should worship as an icon, who they should listen to now and whom to dress like, etc. It's all phoney.

I agree with Matt Pinfield

[Coldchillin]

Not very good

[c_tietze]

What?! It took me like 10 seconds and the first Pinfield pic I could find.

I mean I like you guys, but you're not worth a top shelf photoshop job.

[SLAPyourW1FE]

how does timmy not make it to the top 50 or even top 100 best guitar players list...?

[taparoo]

how does timmy not make it to the top 50 or even top 100 best guitar players list...?

I'm assuming you're talking about the RS article a while back? Have you read the posts in this thread at all?

[Mikey]

how does timmy not make it to the top 50 or even top 100 best guitar players list...?

I'm assuming you're talking about the RS article a while back? Have you read the posts in this thread at all?

im not sure if warren haynes was on the list or not, but dmb guest robert randolph was 98

[c_tietze]

Robert Randolph is the man, but what he does on the pedal steel buitar is nothing original nor groundbreaking. In fact that particular instrument, in my opinion has a limited pallette.

[taparoo]

Robert Randolph is the man, but what he does on the pedal steel buitar is nothing original nor groundbreaking. In fact that particular instrument, in my opinion has a limited pallette.

Well, the way he has incorporated the pedal steel into a jam band setting and successfully made it a lead instrument (instead of backing songs about crying in your beer and losing love ) is what has made him so 'groundbreaking', or fresh, anyway, and how he has taken that and made it somewhat mainstream.

[SLAPyourW1FE]

how does timmy not make it to the top 50 or even top 100 best guitar players list...?

I'm assuming you're talking about the RS article a while back? Have you read the posts in this thread at all?

actually, no i havent. but i guess i will now

[a1075dd63aa12]

mainstream yes

but who cares?

Sounds like those kids who are like "I am awesome and above you because I listen to music that 5 other people have heard and that makes me artistic, original, and obviously I have a better taste in music then you"



i listen to whatever sounds good to me so i dont care what they sell or however popular they are.

Do I listen to classical music and shit like Boyz II Men? yes. do guys fuck with me because I do? yes. Do I care? No. It's better then listening to something you don't want to listen to, but you do just because you feel like you should...

you read that with some sort of intention to re-interpret the question at hand. there was nothing else to it. there was no judgment passed of any sort based on the quality or "coolness" associated with those who listen to mainstream music. the fact of the matter is dmb is a mainstream band. boyz II men??? ok, but they were mainstream at some point too. i might bust on you about listening to them, but to each their own, everyone here no matter who posts has a guilty pleasure that they enjoy listening to and that is the beauty of music/ art in general. art even if it is produced in a collective setting is meant to be enjoyed in an individual setting, and it is all left up to interpretation. there is never a total concensus on an artistic form, everyone is a hack and everyone is a hero, that just comes with the territory.

Bravo.

However, I think the original notion of mainstream in this forum was attached to an idea of DMB being some sort of pop icon. While the band is undoubtably mainstream by definition and by their immense success, they've managed to achieve that status in a much more subtle way than most of the other "mainstream acts" out there. Consider all the other mainstream acts that try not only to sell themselves and their music, but they sell an image. DMB does ABSOLUTLEY MINIMAL advertising for anything they release, they grew their fanbase through hardwork and word-of-mouth, and most importantly, by being themselves and writing the music that they wanna write. The band has never sold out to anything (for those of you who would mention Stand Up at this point, get over it, as much as we all wanna blame Batson for that one, it was just a slump). So my point is, that yeah, they are mainstream, but in very different way, one that I tend to respect a little more than most others out there.

i agree with a majority of that.