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#41 solo

Unread post by TriPPin'BiLLies' » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:07 am

i just started getting into improvs/solos. I really like to play to 41, its more blues i guess. This is one of my first solos ive recorded. I didnt plan anything or write anything i just went with the flow. i hope my flow isnt to bad. Just want to know what you guys think and any advice good or bad will be appreciated. if you guys like it ill do some more and do them better.


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Unread post by taparoo » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:48 am

You were playing the right scales (Em), there were no bad notes, which was good. But the mark of a good soloist is to hear a melody/lick in your head and know how to interpret that to your guitar. It didn't sound to me like you knew where you were going with that solo - you just found some notes in the Em scale and went to town. This isn't bad for someone who just started out improvising. The thing you need to focus on, though, is creating a melody, something to build off of, and not just hitting random notes, unaware of where you are going to take the solo. You can use the 'breathing' time (time between licks, maybe sometimes as long as a few seconds) to think of where you are going to take the solo, maybe think of some licks you'd like to throw in. I would suggest listening to Warren Haynes' #41 solo he played with DMB (7.29.06), and getting some ideas from there, as well as listening as much as you can to other guitarists that improvise (Clapton, Santana, Tim Reynolds, etc. whatever you dig). It'll all come with time. And keep it up.

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Unread post by TriPPin'BiLLies' » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:21 am

Thanks for the advice, its good to know im going in the right direction. Would anyone happen to have that version of 41 with warren haynes?

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Unread post by pjdk28 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:30 pm

bbking=phrasing god. give him a fair shot.

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Unread post by TriPPin'BiLLies' » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:25 pm

tap thanks for posting 41 with haynes. i see what your saying about trying to do to much aka going to town lol. i think i just need better and more licks in my repertoire.

What bbking songs do you recommned me to listen too? i love the blues so im looking foward to this. thanks.

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Unread post by taparoo » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:23 pm

TriPPin'BiLLies' wrote:tap thanks for posting 41 with haynes. i see what
What bbking songs do you recommned me to listen too? i love the blues so im looking foward to this. thanks.
Pretty much anythingby him. Most of his songs have good licks in 'em. Listen to 'Thrill is Gone', 'How Blue Can You Get', and 'Rock Me Baby', those should start you off in the right direction. I would also suggest listening to some Tim Reynolds (live at Luther College is gold, if you don't already have it), Warren Haynes of course (Gov't Mule), and Peter Green, another god of phrasing (look into the early days of Fleetwood Mac, the mid-late 60's). Just take what you can from other guitarists and incorporate that into your own style.

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Unread post by GSR » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:34 pm

taparoo wrote:You were playing the right scales (Em), there were no bad notes, which was good. But the mark of a good soloist is to hear a melody/lick in your head and know how to interpret that to your guitar. It didn't sound to me like you knew where you were going with that solo - you just found some notes in the Em scale and went to town. This isn't bad for someone who just started out improvising. The thing you need to focus on, though, is creating a melody, something to build off of, and not just hitting random notes, unaware of where you are going to take the solo. You can use the 'breathing' time (time between licks, maybe sometimes as long as a few seconds) to think of where you are going to take the solo, maybe think of some licks you'd like to throw in. I would suggest listening to Warren Haynes' #41 solo he played with DMB (7.29.06), and getting some ideas from there, as well as listening as much as you can to other guitarists that improvise (Clapton, Santana, Tim Reynolds, etc. whatever you dig). It'll all come with time. And keep it up.
Good advice, I'll use that.
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Unread post by pjdk28 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:47 pm

good leads are made by when is felt, but not played. its all implication, teasing smebodys ear with tension intervals and release. i know thats incredibly vague, but its what separates say bbking vs malmsteen, phrasing vs note bombardment. a couple of songs which come to mind as fantastic examples in the #41 mood range:

the Allman Brothers- Melissa (dickie betts was replaced by warren haynes, but the original studio cut is just plain heavenly) i admit it, i steal licks from this constantly

DMB Crush - obviously we are all biased and i hate to be, but timmys les paul is perfectly understated and just chills

Beatles- while my guitar gently weeps - this is actually clapton on lead

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Unread post by katie » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:43 am

pjdk28 wrote:
this song is incredible

Beatles- while my guitar gently weeps - this is actually clapton on lead
I learn something new everyday!


downloading the solo now. I'll get back to you tommorow, dial up is a bummer.

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Unread post by TriPPin'BiLLies' » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:07 pm

Thanks for all the replies but for the people that listened to it, what did you think? is there potential there or is there a great amount improvement needed? i hope it was somewhat enjoyable. thanks again for the replies so far.

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Unread post by pjdk28 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:54 pm

katie wrote:
pjdk28 wrote:
this song is incredible

Beatles- while my guitar gently weeps - this is actually clapton on lead
I learn something new everyday!


downloading the solo now. I'll get back to you tommorow, dial up is a bummer.
harrison and clapton were close buddies. theres a couple tracks they guested for eachother, but most notable is beatles-weeps, and cream-badge (thats actually harrison on the reverb guitar).

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Unread post by pjdk28 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:56 pm

TriPPin'BiLLies' wrote:Thanks for all the replies but for the people that listened to it, what did you think? is there potential there or is there a great amount improvement needed? i hope it was somewhat enjoyable. thanks again for the replies so far.
you sound like you have a grip of the scale, which is farther than most people ever get. keep us posted!

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