New Dave Article (News About The Album and RCA)

taparoo · Unread post by **taparoo** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:45 pm

carter29 wrote:What affect will the record company change have on DMB? I'm not sure if I understand all the logistics behind these sort of things. Will this affect the music at all, or just a better working eviroment for DMB and crew?

Well, I don't claim to know everything about record companies and such, but I do know that record companies (talking big-time deals) put a lot of (at least what I've come to know of record co.'s) pressure on the musicians to make a hit single/mainstream record, something catchy - the record company wants the album to sell. I think that being away from all that pressure and those bad vibes the record companies give out, that DMB would be able to pursue their muses and have their own musical direction, not some big-shot producer's/record company's. Again, that's just my two-cents.

edit: And thanks, Nitro, that was a good read. I like Dave's take on live fan recordings. And that definately has to suck when a million+ people are watching you perform and your voice is almost completely shot.

Taylor2885 · Unread post by **Taylor2885** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:46 pm

I think he only threw the thing in about his voice sucking at N2 in Florida because he was so embarassed by it. He probably tries to throw something in about that night in every interview he does to try and save face.

bassman462 · Unread post by **bassman462** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:11 pm

taparoo wrote:
carter29 wrote:What affect will the record company change have on DMB? I'm not sure if I understand all the logistics behind these sort of things. Will this affect the music at all, or just a better working eviroment for DMB and crew?
Well, I don't claim to know everything about record companies and such, but I do know that record companies (talking big-time deals) put a lot of (at least what I've come to know of record co.'s) pressure on the musicians to make a hit single/mainstream record, something catchy - the record company wants the album to sell. I think that being away from all that pressure and those bad vibes the record companies give out, that DMB would be able to pursue their muses and have their own musical direction, not some big-shot producer's/record company's. Again, that's just my two-cents.

edit: And thanks, Nitro, that was a good read. I like Dave's take on live fan recordings. And that definately has to suck when a million+ people are watching you perform and your voice is almost completely shot.

ya basically a big company wants to make money off of a group. and dmb being completely different then any other mainstream band. they don't neen publicity they have a large and loyal fanbase. he doesn't need to worry about people buying his albums, because again he has a large and loyal fanbase. He really doesn't need to worry about money, he has plenty of it, and wherever he tours, people will go. So going with like say an Indie lable they will still have all the same fanbase and will be able to sell fine. say if a band like simple plan wanted to do it they couldn't. they have to have that type of label to keep them out there.

Taylor2885 · Unread post by **Taylor2885** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:51 pm

bassman462 wrote:
taparoo wrote:
carter29 wrote:What affect will the record company change have on DMB? I'm not sure if I understand all the logistics behind these sort of things. Will this affect the music at all, or just a better working eviroment for DMB and crew?
Well, I don't claim to know everything about record companies and such, but I do know that record companies (talking big-time deals) put a lot of (at least what I've come to know of record co.'s) pressure on the musicians to make a hit single/mainstream record, something catchy - the record company wants the album to sell. I think that being away from all that pressure and those bad vibes the record companies give out, that DMB would be able to pursue their muses and have their own musical direction, not some big-shot producer's/record company's. Again, that's just my two-cents.

edit: And thanks, Nitro, that was a good read. I like Dave's take on live fan recordings. And that definately has to suck when a million+ people are watching you perform and your voice is almost completely shot.
ya basically a big company wants to make money off of a group. and dmb being completely different then any other mainstream band. they don't neen publicity they have a large and loyal fanbase. he doesn't need to worry about people buying his albums, because again he has a large and loyal fanbase. He really doesn't need to worry about money, he has plenty of it, and wherever he tours, people will go. So going with like say an Indie lable they will still have all the same fanbase and will be able to sell fine. say if a band like simple plan wanted to do it they couldn't. they have to have that type of label to keep them out there.

Agreed completely, but they're going to need a GREAT release with their next album, not just good but great. Unfortunately their starting to lose some credit in the music industry, even with their loyal fan base. They need an incredible, award-winning album (yes, hate to say it, and it's shooting for the stars, but another BTCS) to get them some of the credit back they once had.

taparoo · Unread post by **taparoo** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:59 pm

Taylor2885 wrote:
bassman462 wrote:
taparoo wrote:
carter29 wrote:What affect will the record company change have on DMB? I'm not sure if I understand all the logistics behind these sort of things. Will this affect the music at all, or just a better working eviroment for DMB and crew?
Well, I don't claim to know everything about record companies and such, but I do know that record companies (talking big-time deals) put a lot of (at least what I've come to know of record co.'s) pressure on the musicians to make a hit single/mainstream record, something catchy - the record company wants the album to sell. I think that being away from all that pressure and those bad vibes the record companies give out, that DMB would be able to pursue their muses and have their own musical direction, not some big-shot producer's/record company's. Again, that's just my two-cents.

edit: And thanks, Nitro, that was a good read. I like Dave's take on live fan recordings. And that definately has to suck when a million+ people are watching you perform and your voice is almost completely shot.
ya basically a big company wants to make money off of a group. and dmb being completely different then any other mainstream band. they don't neen publicity they have a large and loyal fanbase. he doesn't need to worry about people buying his albums, because again he has a large and loyal fanbase. He really doesn't need to worry about money, he has plenty of it, and wherever he tours, people will go. So going with like say an Indie lable they will still have all the same fanbase and will be able to sell fine. say if a band like simple plan wanted to do it they couldn't. they have to have that type of label to keep them out there.
Agreed completely, but they're going to need a GREAT release with their next album, not just good but great. Unfortunately their starting to lose some credit in the music industry, even with their loyal fan base. They need an incredible, award-winning album (yes, hate to say it, and it's shooting for the stars, but another BTCS) to get them some of the credit back they once had.

Well, I wouldn't say "award-winning" (like Grammys), but I think I know what you meant. Yeah, their next album will have to be REALLY good to redeem themselves (studio-wise).

Nitro1515 · Unread post by **Nitro1515** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:06 pm

Coldchillin wrote:That might be a good thing. Can you fill me in on the TRL debacle?

Remember back in '01 when they performed on TRL? Well they really did not want to do that, Dave said so back in an interview a few years ago. RCA forced them into it in order to appeal to the teeny bopper fan base. They even had to bring in that unknown electric guitarist to back Dave's parts since he wasn't really comfortable yet. If you watch the performance you can see how uncomfortable they all look with the whole thing.

bassman462 · Unread post by **bassman462** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:30 pm

Nitro1515 wrote:
Coldchillin wrote:That might be a good thing. Can you fill me in on the TRL debacle?
Remember back in '01 when they performed on TRL? Well they really did not want to do that, Dave said so back in an interview a few years ago. RCA forced them into it in order to appeal to the teeny bopper fan base. They even had to bring in that unknown electric guitarist to back Dave's parts since he wasn't really comfortable yet. If you watch the performance you can see how uncomfortable they all look with the whole thing.

ya watching it right now. the set is blah.

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:44 pm

DMB on TRL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLp2-mxJaGY :cry:

painful to watch

hofdaddy · Unread post by **hofdaddy** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:50 pm

wkpggrvn2001 wrote:DMB on TRL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLp2-mxJaGY

painful to watch

ugh. 1 min in and I want everyone dead including NSync

taparoo · Unread post by **taparoo** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:31 pm

wkpggrvn2001 wrote:DMB on TRL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLp2-mxJaGY

painful to watch

Dave can't stop moving! :lol:

They all look so uncomfortable. That really angers me. Just let the band do what they love doing: jamming on stage!

sunglassesatnight · Unread post by **sunglassesatnight** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:50 pm

"IT'S LOUDER THAN NSYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Jesus Christ this is miserable.

Thanks for the article Gianni. Solid read, interesting implications he made at the end. I do hope they are done with the major label thing.

Nitro1515 · Unread post by **Nitro1515** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:22 pm

wkpggrvn2001 wrote:DMB on TRL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLp2-mxJaGY

painful to watch

jesus christ, i remember watching that when it first aired, its disgusting

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:10 pm

Nitro1515 wrote:
wkpggrvn2001 wrote:DMB on TRL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLp2-mxJaGY

painful to watch
jesus christ, i remember watching that when it first aired, its disgusting

they look so out of place/embarassed

Coldchillin · Unread post by **Coldchillin** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:16 pm

Where's the puke emoticon?

Nitro1515 · Unread post by **Nitro1515** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:27 pm

wkpggrvn2001 wrote:
Nitro1515 wrote:
wkpggrvn2001 wrote:DMB on TRL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLp2-mxJaGY

painful to watch
jesus christ, i remember watching that when it first aired, its disgusting
they look so out of place/embarassed

I know its terrible. What's even worse is hearing Carson Daly compare them to N'Sync and breaking to go to a video of Limp Bizkit. What a terrible time that was to be a fan of the band.

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