Who's in charge?

[carter29]

I just a gut instinct that Carter was get shoved out of the way on SU...I cant see a drummer like him letting himself go to a disgrace like that, he wouldnt stand for it.

[jalapena]

Personally, I think Stefan and Carter especially feel like their not given enough credit. From the Stand Up DVD companion, Stefan mentioned that HFTGL showed that somebody ELSE in the band could come up with something just as or 'more' powerful than Dave can. (Which reminds me: HFTGL blows donkey balls compared to anything else they've written).

They've also gotten lazy in the studio, where are the 6-8 minute albums versions of these songs?? That's what made Crash and BTCS so good.

[bassman462]

They've also gotten lazy in the studio, where are the 6-8 minute albums versions of these songs?? That's what made Crash and BTCS so good.

ya...you want to know why?

-lillywhite

(- as in subtract)

[CWMCALL]

The setlist is run by the other members like wkpgbvermalzu said. I remember dave said in an interview that sometimes he'll write up the setlist and send it over to stefan and it'll be completely changed around.

Carter or someone said that Everyday is a great Dave Matthews and Glen Ballard record.

carter also said it was the best music they ever wrote

in the charlie rose interview? I think there was some quick answers given in that interview in the studio that were lies to not start any problems. Each one in the band gave a quick 'yep'

no, 60 minutes. he was rqaving about it. granted, i didnt buy it, but he did say it.

here is video of the 60 Minutes II piece from 2001
http://www.sendspace.com/file/p12i2c

[Thomas]

I just a gut instinct that Carter was get shoved out of the way on SU...I cant see a drummer like him letting himself go to a disgrace like that, he wouldnt stand for it.

but that's not what Carter said on the stand up dvd.

i believe he said something to the effect of it gave him more freedom.

[Beauford33]

I just a gut instinct that Carter was get shoved out of the way on SU...I cant see a drummer like him letting himself go to a disgrace like that, he wouldnt stand for it.

Dont mistake simplicity for disgrace. There have been much greater drummers play much less then Carter did on Stand Up. Its not disgrace. And if you think the album sucks...then that is the album. But what Carter did on there has been done before by much greater drummers. It happens. Not bad. It works for the most part.

[checkii]

The setlist is run by the other members like wkpgbvermalzu said. I remember dave said in an interview that sometimes he'll write up the setlist and send it over to stefan and it'll be completely changed around.

Carter or someone said that Everyday is a great Dave Matthews and Glen Ballard record.

carter also said it was the best music they ever wrote

in the charlie rose interview? I think there was some quick answers given in that interview in the studio that were lies to not start any problems. Each one in the band gave a quick 'yep'

no, 60 minutes. he was rqaving about it. granted, i didnt buy it, but he did say it.

here is video of the 60 Minutes II piece from 2001
http://www.sendspace.com/file/p12i2c

you are a good man. i have it at home, but this is a great vid for any dmb fan. and i have the whole show (as int he concert at shoreline) sbd pull from this 60 minutes focus. and the two step is unbelievable.

[carter29]

I just a gut instinct that Carter was get shoved out of the way on SU...I cant see a drummer like him letting himself go to a disgrace like that, he wouldnt stand for it.

Dont mistake simplicity for disgrace. There have been much greater drummers play much less then Carter did on Stand Up. Its not disgrace. And if you think the album sucks...then that is the album. But what Carter did on there has been done before by much greater drummers. It happens. Not bad. It works for the most part.

you make a good point in your post. However in this case the percussion sounds that used to fill out the tunes and his emotional and technical drumming vanished. The fact that hand claps and drum loops make a DMB record disapoint me and (IMO) shows me a lack of drive, inspiration, emotion, and carelessness (is that even a word?) from the band. I would never say simplicity = disgrace/bad music. However the style of the band's music is black and white compared to their previous work, including Everyday. Carter's work on SU to me, is boring, uninteresting, held back and unoriginal. Traits never before shown by him in the slightest bit.

[MakoMako]

I just a gut instinct that Carter was get shoved out of the way on SU...I cant see a drummer like him letting himself go to a disgrace like that, he wouldnt stand for it.

Dont mistake simplicity for disgrace. There have been much greater drummers play much less then Carter did on Stand Up. Its not disgrace. And if you think the album sucks...then that is the album. But what Carter did on there has been done before by much greater drummers. It happens. Not bad. It works for the most part.

you make a good point in your post. However in this case the percussion sounds that used to fill out the tunes and his emotional and technical drumming vanished. The fact that hand claps and drum loops make a DMB record disapoint me and (IMO) shows me a lack of drive, inspiration, emotion, and carelessness (is that even a word?) from the band. I would never say simplicity = disgrace/bad music. However the style of the band's music is black and white compared to their previous work, including Everyday. Carter's work on SU to me, is boring, uninteresting, held back and unoriginal. Traits never before shown by him in the slightest bit.

I agree completely about Carter's drumming on SU. But I will say that he does seem to get more into it, as well as mix things up a bit in the live versions. At least more so than on the ablum itself. As much as I love listening to DMBs albums, I feel that the live performances that I can get ahold of are much more important to me personally. I say this, because this is a band that truely shines playing live. Rarely have I heard a studio version sound better than any live version, if ever.

[carter29]

I just a gut instinct that Carter was get shoved out of the way on SU...I cant see a drummer like him letting himself go to a disgrace like that, he wouldnt stand for it.

Dont mistake simplicity for disgrace. There have been much greater drummers play much less then Carter did on Stand Up. Its not disgrace. And if you think the album sucks...then that is the album. But what Carter did on there has been done before by much greater drummers. It happens. Not bad. It works for the most part.

you make a good point in your post. However in this case the percussion sounds that used to fill out the tunes and his emotional and technical drumming vanished. The fact that hand claps and drum loops make a DMB record disapoint me and (IMO) shows me a lack of drive, inspiration, emotion, and carelessness (is that even a word?) from the band. I would never say simplicity = disgrace/bad music. However the style of the band's music is black and white compared to their previous work, including Everyday. Carter's work on SU to me, is boring, uninteresting, held back and unoriginal. Traits never before shown by him in the slightest bit.

I agree completely about Carter's drumming on SU. But I will say that he does seem to get more into it, as well as mix things up a bit in the live versions. At least more so than on the ablum itself. As much as I love listening to DMBs albums, I feel that the live performances that I can get ahold of are much more important to me personally. I say this, because this is a band that truely shines playing live. Rarely have I heard a studio version sound better than any live version, if ever.

yeah live usually is best, usually. I guess he's just a hero of mine and let me down on SU

[STLflmmkr]

Personally, I think Stefan and Carter especially feel like their not given enough credit. From the Stand Up DVD companion, Stefan mentioned that HFTGL showed that somebody ELSE in the band could come up with something just as or 'more' powerful than Dave can. (Which reminds me: HFTGL blows donkey balls compared to anything else they've written).

They've also gotten lazy in the studio, where are the 6-8 minute albums versions of these songs?? That's what made Crash and BTCS so good.

we know this already. Dreaming Tree and Rapunzel were written mostly by stefan

[STLflmmkr]

I think all of their ideas have equal weight. I dont think that anyone has more power except maybe the producer. They all bring something so different that i dont see one person controlling the band. Since Dave writes most of the lyrics and i think comes up with most of the beginning riffs of a song when its being created I think people get the idea that he controls the band. But then Carter comes in and starts jamming to whatever the beginning riff is then stefan lays down the bass so that boyd, leroi, and then dave can jam and take the song to other places. Then stefan keeps the beat so carter can have his outburst. I dont think that Dave will go to carter and say " um i dont think that snare hit fits the song I think it needs to be a cymbal" I think they are all allowed to do what they feel is right with their instrument

[filmdude100cms]

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[Hydro120]

charles

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[rekeen01]

charles

took me about two looks then I got it lol