Tim Reynolds - Live in Chicago

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:53 am

I agree that Tim is amazing, but, I'm just not a fan of when he plays with the whole band (at least for an entire show). I just don't think they always work well together. Sometimes, it comes together great though.

A Dave and Tim set, however, is perfect to me!

This is opinion by the way...

Cor · Unread post by **Cor** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:59 am

sfmartins wrote:
Cor wrote: He picks so hard on acoustic that it sounds like shit. His electric solos (That I've heard from DMB live releases) are always composed of pre-bend licks, which he overuses like crazy, and then poorly executed shred runs which don't fit in the cotext of the song.

I would say, just to compare DMB guests, that Warren Haynes is a guitarist that is, IMO, much better than Tim.
I agree that Tim overuses bending stuff and effects with the electric guitar. However, I don't understand why you say "he picks so hard on acoustic that it sounds like shit". I know he uses a thick pick, so that can happen but... well, I don't see any of those issues on L@LC.

Heh heh. Must be opinion. Cause I hear it all over that disc.

sfmartins · Unread post by **sfmartins** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:42 pm

Cor wrote:
sfmartins wrote:
Cor wrote: He picks so hard on acoustic that it sounds like shit. His electric solos (That I've heard from DMB live releases) are always composed of pre-bend licks, which he overuses like crazy, and then poorly executed shred runs which don't fit in the cotext of the song.

I would say, just to compare DMB guests, that Warren Haynes is a guitarist that is, IMO, much better than Tim.
I agree that Tim overuses bending stuff and effects with the electric guitar. However, I don't understand why you say "he picks so hard on acoustic that it sounds like shit". I know he uses a thick pick, so that can happen but... well, I don't see any of those issues on L@LC.
Heh heh. Must be opinion. Cause I hear it all over that disc.

acusticdude · Unread post by **acusticdude** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:46 pm

anyone who thinks tim sucks needs to seriously re-evaluate what a good guitar player is to them. Even if you don't like the music he creates, he is still above and beyond most guitarist that are living. Yeah, he can go overboard, adrenaline will do that, but at the end of the day, he could still play circles around around 98% of the universe

Cor · Unread post by **Cor** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:07 pm

acusticdude wrote:anyone who thinks tim sucks needs to seriously re-evaluate what a good guitar player is to them. Even if you don't like the music he creates, he is still above and beyond most guitarist that are living. Yeah, he can go overboard, adrenaline will do that, but at the end of the day, he could still play circles around around 98% of the universe

Oh, please.

A good guitar player to me is, first and foremost, tasteful. I don't think Tim is tasteful, that's my opinon. I don't think he "can play circles around 98% of the universe" for reasons I previously stated, yet I don't attack Tim-lovers saying they need to re-evaluate what a good guitar player is.

I can promise you that if Dave hadn't played with Tim, you'd have never heard of him. He'd be just another bar-playing guitarist to the likes of you and I. As far as I'm concerned, I don't think he is a guitar god, or even close to one.

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:11 pm

Cor wrote:
acusticdude wrote:anyone who thinks tim sucks needs to seriously re-evaluate what a good guitar player is to them. Even if you don't like the music he creates, he is still above and beyond most guitarist that are living. Yeah, he can go overboard, adrenaline will do that, but at the end of the day, he could still play circles around around 98% of the universe
Oh, please.

A good guitar player to me is, first and foremost, tasteful. I don't think Tim is tasteful, that's my opinon. I don't think he "can play circles around 98% of the universe" for reasons I previously stated, yet I don't attack Tim-lovers saying they need to re-evaluate what a good guitar player is.

I can promise you that if Dave hadn't played with Tim, you'd have never heard of him. He'd be just another bar-playing guitarist to the likes of you and I. As far as I'm concerned, I don't think he is a guitar god, or even close to one.

I think there are other guitarists out there (not gonna name any names :lol:

) that are as talented as Tim, but more tasteful. Tim plays some pretty weird shit thats kinda cool to listen to every once in awhile, but its not something that'll make me buy one of his albums. In fact, I don't know why I bought one of his albums about 6 years ago...probably because I was a stupid HS freshman.

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:35 am

Tim is very hit or miss with me. It's either on and it clicks, or he is just kind of in the way. I have much more appreciation for things he has done with the band in the studio then on any of the live releases. Debating whether he is talented, is a ridiculous debate. Technically he is great. As Cor and others mentioned it comes down to how tasteful his additions are. I like Tim Reynolds, and have respect for him as an artist.

In my opinion a great guitarist/musician knows when to jump in and when to lay back and how to add in a meaningful way. Not just play to play. Examples can be seen on the Live in Chicago disc in both Maceo Parker and Victor Wooten. Granted, they werent as involved as Tim in terms of the show in it's entirety, but what they had to add was substantial and very enjoyable and didnt take away from the song in the slightest bit, but only added to it.

This could all be based upon opinion. I personally dont care how fast a guitarist can pick are how much technical skill they possess. There is so much more to music that is more important than technical ability. Outstanding technical ability used in a tasteful manner, helps create very original and thoroughly enjoyable music, but i can listen to an artist play standard chords, and if the melody is enjoyable and the lyrics are entertaining i will take that over other musicians or groups of musicians who are in technical terms better musicians.

The tasteful aspect is of course up to opinion so what sounds good to someone may not sound good to me or someone else. Plenty of people are in love with Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, Dream Theater. But as for me, i dont find much substance to the music. I could give a shit how complex a song is or how technically difficult a song is to play, good music is good music, no matter how difficult or not it is to play.

This might be my longest post ever :lol:

Gold · Unread post by **Gold** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:35 am

Couldn't agree with you more, bobby.

acusticdude · Unread post by **acusticdude** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:48 am

you are all idiots

Blake · Unread post by **Blake** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:25 pm

acusticdude wrote:you are all idiots

explanation????

briguy945 · Unread post by **briguy945** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:49 pm

I agree that most of us never would have heard of Tim if it weren't for Dave Matthews.

GuitarGuy305 · Unread post by **GuitarGuy305** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:07 pm

I'm certainly glad I posted that video. :roll:

Thomas · Unread post by **Thomas** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:20 pm

GuitarGuy305 wrote:I'm certainly glad I posted that video.

oh sorry, when you posted the video you simply reminded me that i've wanted to ask this question for a long time.

Cor · Unread post by **Cor** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:46 pm

wkpggrvn2001 wrote:Tim is very hit or miss with me. It's either on and it clicks, or he is just kind of in the way. I have much more appreciation for things he has done with the band in the studio then on any of the live releases. Debating whether he is talented, is a ridiculous debate. Technically he is great. As Cor and others mentioned it comes down to how tasteful his additions are. I like Tim Reynolds, and have respect for him as an artist.

In my opinion a great guitarist/musician knows when to jump in and when to lay back and how to add in a meaningful way. Not just play to play. Examples can be seen on the Live in Chicago disc in both Maceo Parker and Victor Wooten. Granted, they werent as involved as Tim in terms of the show in it's entirety, but what they had to add was substantial and very enjoyable and didnt take away from the song in the slightest bit, but only added to it.

This could all be based upon opinion. I personally dont care how fast a guitarist can pick are how much technical skill they possess. There is so much more to music that is more important than technical ability. Outstanding technical ability used in a tasteful manner, helps create very original and thoroughly enjoyable music, but i can listen to an artist play standard chords, and if the melody is enjoyable and the lyrics are entertaining i will take that over other musicians or groups of musicians who are in technical terms better musicians.

The tasteful aspect is of course up to opinion so what sounds good to someone may not sound good to me or someone else. Plenty of people are in love with Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, Dream Theater. But as for me, i dont find much substance to the music. I could give a shit how complex a song is or how technically difficult a song is to play, good music is good music, no matter how difficult or not it is to play.

This might be my longest post ever

Great post. :thumbsup:

Davy28 · Unread post by **Davy28** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:34 pm

I swear to god, though, if I go up to Orange county this april to see tim and people are screaming "STREAM!" or even worse one of dave's songs throughout the performance, and am going to start chopping testicles and nipples off.

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