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Unread post by DrumsFoDaSoul » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:10 pm

So not seeing to much action in the General Discussion. So....

After reading the thread about the guitar on the left knee, does this differ any opposed to playing standing up? As in, is the same range of motion the same from the guitar being on the left knee compared to standing up. In Indoor Drumline they tell us to practice like you're preforming, so analytical speaking, should I practice on the left knee or on the right in comparison to standing up?

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Unread post by skoal » Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:59 am

Can't you do both? Play it whichever way is comfortable on your lap, then whichever way is comfortable standing up.

Either way I think you're a little ass backwards here. Instead of practicing like you perform, perform like you practice. Adjust the strap so the guitar's in the same position as it is when you're sitting down.

Just play the damn thing.
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Unread post by DrumsFoDaSoul » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:10 pm

skoal wrote:Can't you do both? Play it whichever way is comfortable on your lap, then whichever way is comfortable standing up.

Either way I think you're a little ass backwards here. Instead of practicing like you perform, perform like you practice. Adjust the strap so the guitar's in the same position as it is when you're sitting down.

Just play the damn thing.

This is completely irrelevant to the question previously asked. Im asking if there is a difference between playing on the left knee then switching to standing up. If you can get certain chords and passages on the left knee, what will happen when you switch standing up? You might now be able to hit those same chords. Thanks for the try though.

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Unread post by Lbacker » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:52 pm

DrumsFoDaSoul wrote:
skoal wrote:Can't you do both? Play it whichever way is comfortable on your lap, then whichever way is comfortable standing up.

Either way I think you're a little ass backwards here. Instead of practicing like you perform, perform like you practice. Adjust the strap so the guitar's in the same position as it is when you're sitting down.

Just play the damn thing.

This is completely irrelevant to the question previously asked. Im asking if there is a difference between playing on the left knee then switching to standing up. If you can get certain chords and passages on the left knee, what will happen when you switch standing up? You might now be able to hit those same chords. Thanks for the try though.
I’ve been through a lot of guitars over the years. And, each guitar has a different effect on your playing because of the width of the neck or the physical characteristics of the guitar. How deep the body is, the width of the neck, all those things go into making the particular tones. Each involves you differently physically. I stand up when I play, and I think that has a tremendous effect on how I sound. The difference between standing up and sitting down is really pronounced. It allows you to become more involved in it because your whole physicality is involved - your legs, your knees, your shoulders are allowed to move around more. But for DMB music its important to look at Dave when he plays. If you've ever seen a D&T video you notice that his legs are always moving, twirking around in some kind of motion. Dave carries his standing up characteristics into sitting. For classical music, I'm assuming b/c I don't play it, there isn;t that sense of jamming so the motions may be less, probably why its proper to have the guitar on the left knee, more rigid and disciplined. Hope I could helo out a little.

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Unread post by DrumsFoDaSoul » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:17 pm

Yeah man, totally understand. Thanks for the input.

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Re: Classical Playing

Unread post by skoal » Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:45 pm

DrumsFoDaSoul wrote: After reading the thread about the guitar on the left knee, does this differ any opposed to playing standing up? As in, is the same range of motion the same from the guitar being on the left knee compared to standing up. In Indoor Drumline they tell us to practice like you're preforming, so analytical speaking, should I practice on the left knee or on the right in comparison to standing up?
Oh I'm sorry. I get a little confused when I'm not reading fucking English.

I still stand by my answer. Shorten the strap so it's at the same level it's at when you play sitting down. That way you're playing the same way both times and you won't be faced with such a hard brain buster like figuring out how to hold your guitar.
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Re: Classical Playing

Unread post by Lbacker » Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:27 pm

skoal wrote:
DrumsFoDaSoul wrote: After reading the thread about the guitar on the left knee, does this differ any opposed to playing standing up? As in, is the same range of motion the same from the guitar being on the left knee compared to standing up. In Indoor Drumline they tell us to practice like you're preforming, so analytical speaking, should I practice on the left knee or on the right in comparison to standing up?
Oh I'm sorry. I get a little confused when I'm not reading fucking English.

I still stand by my answer. Shorten the strap so it's at the same level it's at when you play sitting down. That way you're playing the same way both times and you won't be faced with such a hard brain buster like figuring out how to hold your guitar.
Yah I understand what your saying and agree. But he's speaking classically, and every classical player I have seen has sat, guitar on left knee. So there must be a large difference in abilities for classical guitar from sitting than standing. Because if there wasn't a profound difference then you would see both; like you see in modern music. Just please sit and play if your using a nylon string.

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Unread post by Popeye2003 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:02 pm

Yea, classical players use the guitar on the left knee, keeping the left foot on something, generally the guitar case. Mainly because that keeps the "arm" (???) of the guitar higher. Makes it easier to change chords and all, because your arm is in a more comfortable position, in which you don't have to make much strenght to keep it there. It makes hand movement easier.

Ever noticed how Dave has the "nail" (strap holder) of the middle of the guitar fixed on below the end of the fretboard? It has the same effect as playing sitting with the guitar on the left leg, it lifts the guitar. Keeps the fretboard higher, makes playing easier.

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Re: Classical Playing

Unread post by DrumsFoDaSoul » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:07 pm

skoal wrote:
DrumsFoDaSoul wrote: After reading the thread about the guitar on the left knee, does this differ any opposed to playing standing up? As in, is the same range of motion the same from the guitar being on the left knee compared to standing up. In Indoor Drumline they tell us to practice like you're preforming, so analytical speaking, should I practice on the left knee or on the right in comparison to standing up?
Oh I'm sorry. I get a little confused when I'm not reading fucking English.

I still stand by my answer. Shorten the strap so it's at the same level it's at when you play sitting down. That way you're playing the same way both times and you won't be faced with such a hard brain buster like figuring out how to hold your guitar.

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Re: Classical Playing

Unread post by skoal » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:26 pm

Lbacker wrote: Yah I understand what your saying and agree. But he's speaking classically, and every classical player I have seen has sat, guitar on left knee. So there must be a large difference in abilities for classical guitar from sitting than standing. Because if there wasn't a profound difference then you would see both; like you see in modern music. Just please sit and play if your using a nylon string.
I understand that, but he never explained this. Is he a classical player? Then I'd understand, but I got the impression he was just asking about playing on the left vs. right knee for playing "general" guitar.
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Re: Classical Playing

Unread post by fede » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:45 pm

DrumsFoDaSoul wrote:So not seeing to much action in the General Discussion. So....

After reading the thread about the guitar on the left knee, does this differ any opposed to playing standing up? As in, is the same range of motion the same from the guitar being on the left knee compared to standing up. In Indoor Drumline they tell us to practice like you're preforming, so analytical speaking, should I practice on the left knee or on the right in comparison to standing up?
I recommend playing on the left knee, ALWAYS, but apart from that, it resembles a lot more to play standing (that if you do not play like those rockers or punks that play with the guitar almost to their knees [standing]).

I guess classical guitar players donºt play standing because i really (strongly) don't visualize that as "classic", it would be quite revolutionary to see a classic player standing.

I don't think classic guitar playing can be done standing, just a Wild guess though.

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Re: Classical Playing

Unread post by Lbacker » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:01 pm

I don't think classic guitar playing can be done standing, just a Wild guess though.
Yah and the classical guitar has been around for hundreds of years...never once seen anyone play standing and I'm sure they would have tried it sometime in it's lifetime.

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Unread post by fede » Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:39 pm

Lbacker wrote:
I don't think classic guitar playing can be done standing, just a Wild guess though.
Yah and the classical guitar has been around for hundreds of years...never once seen anyone play standing and I'm sure they would have tried it sometime in it's lifetime.
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Re: Classical Playing

Unread post by Kukini » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:54 am

fedelm wrote:
Lbacker wrote:
I don't think classic guitar playing can be done standing, just a Wild guess though.
Yah and the classical guitar has been around for hundreds of years...never once seen anyone play standing and I'm sure they would have tried it sometime in it's lifetime.
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Unread post by Lbacker » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:11 pm

Tim Reynolds? I watched him play something that sounded like Beethoven or Bach while standing.
Yah but Tim Reynolds in from a different planet....thats what Dave said.

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