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A stupid thread i found while browsing ants...

Unread post by Dheibs » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:23 am

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showt ... p?t=154960

I dunno if hes telling the truth. but it is believable i guess.
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Unread post by mattinbeloit » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:48 am

interesting if true...
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Unread post by paulaitchison » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:28 am

im fairly sure its not true, for three reasons
1 if your a friend of dave you wouldnt be on websites about him gossiping,and breaching confidence
2 if you have a work relationship you wouldnt dare breack that contract by gosiping about what you saw.
3 for all the writing what did he actually tell us, that its a four story house ex mill, thats in the organic food artical, that there are african artworks......well durr, and that he has a load of guitars in cases and some unopened cds..........well im convinced.
i just cant see the motivation behind this..... except getting attention
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Unread post by wayward_blue » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:30 am

paulaitchison wrote:im fairly sure its not true, for three reasons
1 if your a friend of dave you wouldnt be on websites about him gossiping,and breaching confidence
2 if you have a work relationship you wouldnt dare breack that contract by gosiping about what you saw.
3 for all the writing what did he actually tell us, that its a four story house ex mill, thats in the organic food artical, that there are african artworks......well durr, and that he has a load of guitars in cases and some unopened cds..........well im convinced.
i just cant see the motivation behind this..... except getting attention
He didn't really tell us much at all and anything that gave the slightest insight into what his house is like we all could've assumed it already. Guitars, piano's, writing tabs, books, and african art in the home of a musician from Africa. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

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Unread post by i am sam2 » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:16 pm

well he could be telling the truth, or he could not be. i just dont care. how is this supposed to change someone's opinion of dave or his music?
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Unread post by aj1pso » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:51 pm

Well, I personally would love to find out as much as I can about a person I admire so much. Its not gonna change my opinion about him at all though.

But I guess I am curious. Maybe he was there doing some work on the house? If he did his job and left its reasonable that he would come online bragging about it.

He doesnt have to be a personal friend to get in there and that description didnt actually sound personal. It sounded like an employee's description.
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Unread post by dmbfan101 » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:58 pm

well dave did mention during farm aid that he and his family only eat organic food

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Unread post by aj1pso » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:06 pm

dmbfan101 wrote:well dave did mention during farm aid that he and his family only eat organic food

Whats not organic food anyway? Cows are, pigs are, fish, potatoes, chicken, eggs, etc. They're all organic...
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Unread post by Speenis » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:09 pm

aj1pso wrote:
dmbfan101 wrote:well dave did mention during farm aid that he and his family only eat organic food

Whats not organic food anyway? Cows are, pigs are, fish, potatoes, chicken, eggs, etc. They're all organic...
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Unread post by Gold » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:15 pm

Speenis wrote:
aj1pso wrote:
dmbfan101 wrote:well dave did mention during farm aid that he and his family only eat organic food

Whats not organic food anyway? Cows are, pigs are, fish, potatoes, chicken, eggs, etc. They're all organic...
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Unread post by wayward_blue » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:10 pm

aj1pso wrote:
dmbfan101 wrote:well dave did mention during farm aid that he and his family only eat organic food

Whats not organic food anyway? Cows are, pigs are, fish, potatoes, chicken, eggs, etc. They're all organic...
You can't be serious... Can you? :shock:

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Unread post by aj1pso » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:55 pm

Well yeah, most people dont agree with me on this though.

We associate organic food with products that are grown without the imput of artificial elements- be it genetic manipulation, pesticides or hormonal treatments -, and we associate these things with health.

Yeah, sure, that works. But it is not necessarily true that it should be coupled with health. Artificially influenced products go through lots of testing to be harmless to humans. There are mostly no fully proven health reasons to not pursue this specific type food instead of "organic" food.

I just dont think that just because you use artificial means of producing food it has to be unhealthy. That is ridiculous.
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Unread post by gumbomadness » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:58 pm

aj1pso wrote:Well yeah, most people dont agree with me on this though.

We associate organic food with products that are grown without the imput of artificial elements- be it genetic manipulation, pesticides or hormonal treatments -, and we associate these things with health.

Yeah, sure, that works. But it is not necessarily true that it should be coupled with health. Artificially influenced products go through lots of testing to be harmless to humans. There are mostly no fully proven health reasons to not pursue this specific type food instead of "organic" food.

I just dont think that just because you use artificial means of producing food it has to be unhealthy. That is ridiculous.
..all these things we add ARE doing harm.
Its why humans have cancer and arthritis and things that animals out in the wild do not.
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Unread post by aj1pso » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:20 pm

gumbomadness wrote: ..all these things we add ARE doing harm.
Its why humans have cancer and arthritis and things that animals out in the wild do not.

Animals in the wild have the same arthritis and cancers that we have. Its just less documented because 1- they're wild animals 2- they're not suffering humans. They also suffer from a wide variety of other diseases that we dont thanks to our artificial methods (soap, toothpaste, vitamins, heart transplants). They also die in hunger, which is what we'll do if we think we can have pampered little cows instead of pumped up mass produced big cows with all the nutrients we need.

Research on artificially influenced foods is always advancing and theres always new healthier ways of making things. Even healthier than nature.

This is just my way of thinking. Its stupid to keep tending to animals and plants when we can safely feed the entire growing population of humans with manufactured foods (ie1 Genetically engineered and self sustained meat fibers (ie2: from a lab, not a cow)). Not to mention that we'd be able to stop killing the poor things.


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Unread post by wayward_blue » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:24 pm

aj1pso wrote:Well yeah, most people dont agree with me on this though.

We associate organic food with products that are grown without the imput of artificial elements- be it genetic manipulation, pesticides or hormonal treatments -, and we associate these things with health.

Yeah, sure, that works. But it is not necessarily true that it should be coupled with health. Artificially influenced products go through lots of testing to be harmless to humans. There are mostly no fully proven health reasons to not pursue this specific type food instead of "organic" food.

I just dont think that just because you use artificial means of producing food it has to be unhealthy. That is ridiculous.
I'm sorry but IMO injecting animals with steroids and hormones just so you can have a bigger chicken breast can't be good for you! And the term "organic" is supposed to be used for all natural foods (even though the FDA's guidelines are somewhat questionable). All that said I still don't care to eat organic food :(

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