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Unread post by mabufo » Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:54 pm

I'd love to memorize the notes on the fretboard.. I think that'd be a great thing for me to do... Obviously there is a pattern. Could anyone explain the pattern in that picture to me?
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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:32 pm

all the notes listed are right, thats the note of each fret on the fretboard, you can develop your own way to learn them (repitition, develop a pattern etc.)

notes work like this

A-A#/Bb- B-C-C#/Db-D-D#/Eb-E-F-F#/Gb-G-G#/Ab

1) there are no sharps (#) or flats (b) between B and C, and E and F
2) A# and Bb for the sake of learning in this context are the same thing

When the guitar is in standard tuning, from top to bottom it goes E A D G B e
If you move up one fret on the fret board, you are moving up a half of a step.

Example

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0       1 
e --> F
B --> C
G --> G#/Ab
D --> D#/Eb
A --> A#/Bb
E --> F
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Unread post by mabufo » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:19 pm

So all you really have to remeber is this:

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A-A#/Bb- B-C-C#/Db-D-D#/Eb-E-F-F#/Gb-G-G#/Ab 
and then you'd be pretty much set?
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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:25 pm

mabufo wrote:So all you really have to remeber is this:

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A-A#/Bb- B-C-C#/Db-D-D#/Eb-E-F-F#/Gb-G-G#/Ab 
and then you'd be pretty much set?
no, you need to know the notes on the fretboard for each string that is just why the notes are what they are.

take the Low E (the top string when you are playing it, the fattest one)

from the 1st fret (the biggest one) to the 12th

E-F-F#/Gb-G-G#/Ab-A-A#/Bb-B-C-C#/Db-D-D#/Eb-E

now go back to the chart i listed on the last page and compare the two, and youll see what im talking about

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Unread post by mabufo » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:31 pm

I think you misunderstood what I meant... I meant that you could take this:

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A-A#/Bb- B-C-C#/Db-D-D#/Eb-E-F-F#/Gb-G-G#/Ab 
and apply it anywhere... for example.. the B string. You would take the notes posted above and adjust it... and when you get to A - you'd start it over right?

Unless I am mistaken, you could apply that to any string.. so long as you start it in the right spot ?

Though the problem with that is if someone wants to know what note was on say, the 5th fret of the E string was, you'd have to stop - and count it out using the bit you posted (which is amazingly helpful btw 8-) ). Unless - you would be able to find landmarks on the fretboard... IE: the pattern starts over at the 12th fret -- meaning the open stings (E,A,D,G,B,e) are the same notes as the notes on the 12th fret - but the open notes are an octive lower (right? I think they're an octive lower).
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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:16 pm

mabufo wrote:I think you misunderstood what I meant... I meant that you could take this:

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A-A#/Bb- B-C-C#/Db-D-D#/Eb-E-F-F#/Gb-G-G#/Ab 
and apply it anywhere... for example.. the B string. You would take the notes posted above and adjust it... and when you get to A - you'd start it over right?

Unless I am mistaken, you could apply that to any string.. so long as you start it in the right spot ?

Though the problem with that is if someone wants to know what note was on say, the 5th fret of the E string was, you'd have to stop - and count it out using the bit you posted (which is amazingly helpful btw 8-) ). Unless - you would be able to find landmarks on the fretboard... IE: the pattern starts over at the 12th fret -- meaning the open stings (E,A,D,G,B,e) are the same notes as the notes on the 12th fret - but the open notes are an octive lower (right? I think they're an octive lower).
thats why you need to memorize all of it, that is just how and why the notes are the notes they are. The 5th fret of the string should be easy its an A because you can tune your guitar that way :D. And you are correct about it starting over and the 12th fret being the same as the 1st

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Unread post by mabufo » Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:34 pm

So, along with the helpful order of notes that you posted -- is there a trick to getting the thing memorized? I was never good with memorization, so I'm wondering if there's a secret to it.. 8-)
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Unread post by brian_ok » Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:37 pm

mabufo wrote:So, along with the helpful order of notes that you posted -- is there a trick to getting the thing memorized? I was never good with memorization, so I'm wondering if there's a secret to it.. 8-)
honestly, there's no shortcut. A few things that I have done/am doing:

1. When you're playing a song, stop for a minute, and figure out what notes you're playing.
2. get a fretboard trainer program for the computer..sounds lame, but helps a lot
3. start learning how to sight read...this forces you to learn the notes.
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Unread post by mabufo » Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:53 pm

Yeah, I guess memorizing the entire thing from the open notes to the 12th fret can't really be done overnight. Practice practice practice right? 8-)
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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:09 pm

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mabufo wrote:So, along with the helpful order of notes that you posted -- is there a trick to getting the thing memorized? I was never good with memorization, so I'm wondering if there's a secret to it.. 8-)
honestly, there's no shortcut. A few things that I have done/am doing:

1. When you're playing a song, stop for a minute, and figure out what notes you're playing.
2. get a fretboard trainer program for the computer..sounds lame, but helps a lot
3. start learning how to sight read...this forces you to learn the notes.
thats probably the best advice, just playing will get you to where you know it, that chart i posted can help you so you arent counting up all the whole time, when trying to figure out the notes. hell, it may not even work for you, everyone learns differently.

you might want to figure out your own way of learning it, that really is the best way.

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Unread post by mabufo » Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:42 pm

Well, thanks fellas. Good advice from the both of you. 8-)
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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:08 pm

mabufo wrote:Well, thanks fellas. Good advice from the both of you. 8-)
good luck

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Unread post by Gold » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:36 am

MOE.PHISH wrote:
Dheibs wrote:i dont buy into that program, but. I have a program called Absolute Fretboard Trainer PRO. and yes, it does work, i used it when i first started playin guitar. learned every note on the fretboard in a day or so.
i used the same program awhile back, very handy, since than my hardrive has been wiped out and i dont have it.
I download the lite version of it, and it seems great. You only have access to the first 9 lessons with it, but there's a special offer for the full version on the website that lasts until tomorrow...it costs $49 instead of the usual $70-something...worth it? I was already planning to get the book Fretboard Logics, but I don't think both the program and the book would be necessary?
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Unread post by JCork » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:57 am

two memorable quotes from the scam website:

"...A picture so priceless, old Leonardo Da'Vinci would have bid on it at auction. "

and

...my seven year old son mastered it in only 45 minutes! And the amazing thing is he doesn't even play the guitar!

haha what a joke.
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Unread post by fede » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:29 am

JCork wrote:two memorable quotes from the scam website:

"...A picture so priceless, old Leonardo Da'Vinci would have bid on it at auction. "

and

...my seven year old son mastered it in only 45 minutes! And the amazing thing is he doesn't even play the guitar!

haha what a joke.

jajjajajaja!!!!!!!! Excelent stuff, if you want to laugh a good bit :)

The problem in english (talking bout guitar theory) is that nots do not have names. In spanish they do, which makes it easier i guess.

The progression A-B-C-D-E-F-G is unchangeable. (to that add the "sharps" and you're through).

in spanish would be: La-Si-Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol [La-see-Doh-Reh-Me-Fah-Sohl <------ that's supposed to be pronunciation....]

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