Tripping Billies sliding

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Tripping Billies sliding

Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:29 am

Hey, maybe one of you could verify this or not (and it's going to be tough to put in words :roll: )...but for tripping billies i've really been studying this song closely between tabs and video footage of dave and i think i came across something...

E:-----------------------------------------
B:-----------------------------------------
G:----6--4/--0----7------4/5------------
D:----2--2---0----7------------------9--
A:---------------3/5---7--------------9--
E:-5--------------------8~~~~~--5/7--
3 (2) (1) 4 (1) (1)

after the 799 part at the end of the verse, i tried mimicing(sp?) dave's hand sliding motions (which are extremely fast) in attempt to try and perfect this song,,,,like this....

E:---------------------------------------------------------------
B:---------------------------------------------------------------
G:---------------------------6--4/--0----7-------4/5-----------
D:-------------9-------------2--2---0----7------------------9--
A:-------------9------------------------3/5---7--------------9--
E:~~~~~--5/7-----9\3/5--------------------8~~~~~--5/7--
slide with finger .....(3)

and i added (what looks like what dave is doing) with a downward quick low E slide from fret 9 to fret 3, which then slides quickly back to the 5th fret (re-cycle of the verse)... if this is tough to understand i'll try to explain it better...

but i was actually low enough to watch in the mirror (border-line loser i know) as i practiced this over and over again, and the quick fretting slide at the top end of the neck looks the same when when i add this little slide to the verse...and it definitely gives a good added bass chord sound to it as well...anyway, this was an attempt to replicate the quick fretting motions/slides that dave uses...let me know if this needs more explaining, but try it out if you understand it....
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Re: Tripping Billies sliding

Unread post by Speenis » Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:03 am

tjmac66pc wrote:Hey, maybe one of you could verify this or not (and it's going to be tough to put in words :roll: )...but for tripping billies i've really been studying this song closely between tabs and video footage of dave and i think i came across something...

E:---------------------------------------
B:--------------------------------------
G:----6--4/--0----7------4/5----------
D:----2--2---0----7----------------9--
A:---------------3/5----------------9--
E:-5------------------8~~~~~--5/7--
3 (2) (1) 4 (1) (1)

after the 799 part at the end of the verse, i tried mimicing(sp?) dave's hand sliding motions (which are extremely fast) in attempt to try and perfect this song,,,,like this....

E:-------------------------------------------------------------
B:-------------------------------------------------------------
G:---------------------------6--4/--0----7------4/5----------
D:-------------9-------------2--2---0----7----------------9--
A:-------------9------------------------3/5----------------9--
E:~~~~~--5/7-----\3/5-------------------8~~~~~--5/7--
slide with finger .....(3)

and i added (what looks like what dave is doing) with a downward quick low E slide from fret 9 to fret 3, which then slides quickly back to the 5th fret (re-cycle of the verse)... if this is tough to understand i'll try to explain it better...

but i was actually low enough to watch in the mirror (border-line loser i know) as i practiced this over and over again, and the quick fretting slide at the top end of the neck looks the same when when i add this little slide to the verse...and it definitely gives a good added bass chord sound to it as well...anyway, this was an attempt to replicate the quick fretting motions/slides that dave uses...let me know if this needs more explaining, but try it out if you understand it....
What exactly do u mean by a slide from 3 to 9 on the low E??? It doesn't make any sense to me with that info u gave, where would it be exactly... just a little confused as always :roll:
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Unread post by ryopan » Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:04 am

i bet that sounds good. never tried it but sliding down seems appropriate there. ill give her a try.
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Re: Tripping Billies sliding

Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:22 am

BigSpeen3436 wrote:
tjmac66pc wrote:Hey, maybe one of you could verify this or not (and it's going to be tough to put in words :roll: )...but for tripping billies i've really been studying this song closely between tabs and video footage of dave and i think i came across something...

E:---------------------------------------
B:--------------------------------------
G:----6--4/--0----7------4/5----------
D:----2--2---0----7----------------9--
A:---------------3/5----------------9--
E:-5------------------8~~~~~--5/7--
3 (2) (1) 4 (1) (1)

after the 799 part at the end of the verse, i tried mimicing(sp?) dave's hand sliding motions (which are extremely fast) in attempt to try and perfect this song,,,,like this....

E:---------------------------------------------------------------
B:---------------------------------------------------------------
G:---------------------------6--4/--0----7-------4/5-----------
D:-------------9-------------2--2---0----7------------------9--
A:-------------9------------------------3/5---7--------------9--
E:~~~~~--5/7----9\3/5---------------------8~~~~~--5/7--
slide with finger .....(3)

and i added (what looks like what dave is doing) with a downward quick low E slide from fret 9 to fret 3, which then slides quickly back to the 5th fret (re-cycle of the verse)... if this is tough to understand i'll try to explain it better...

but i was actually low enough to watch in the mirror (border-line loser i know) as i practiced this over and over again, and the quick fretting slide at the top end of the neck looks the same when when i add this little slide to the verse...and it definitely gives a good added bass chord sound to it as well...anyway, this was an attempt to replicate the quick fretting motions/slides that dave uses...let me know if this needs more explaining, but try it out if you understand it....
What exactly do u mean by a slide from 3 to 9 on the low E??? It doesn't make any sense to me with that info u gave, where would it be exactly... just a little confused as always :roll:
right after the 799 part at the end of the first part of the verse, as mentioned...dave does a quick up and down slide in the middle of his recycle leading into this part:

E:---------------------------
B:---------------------------
G:----6--4/--0----7----2---4--
D:----2--2---0----7----x---x--
A:---------------3/5----x---x--
E:-5---------------------2---3--
*3 (2) (1)

which as i mentioned occurs on the low E string, a quick up/down slide from fret 9 to 3 to 5 (which is *3 finger above)...so it does lead into the correct finger positioning to continue recycling the verse....so i guess the little back/forth slide looks like this with your ring finger, and it's really quick (gaurantee if you see a video of him playing TP, you see'll the quick like back/forth slide he does at the top of the neck at this point in the song) hopefully that helps a little...really really tricky to describe, but i'm doing my best :?

E:----9\3/5----------------
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Unread post by DT » Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:29 am

he means when you get to the 799 chord at the end, instead of picking your hand up and going back to the starting position of the verse, move your 3rd finger to 9 on the low E, slide down to 3, back up to 5, and right back into the verse.... ive been trying it for a couple minutes and it sounds cool, but you gotta transition out of the slide really smoothly and im just not that good yet, lol

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Unread post by goalten106 » Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:32 am

if you are trying to perfect the song, you should add a "7" on the A-string between the "8~~~~" on the low E and the "4/5" on the G in the first part. just, you know, if you are trying to perfect it. it sounds cool either way.

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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:33 am

The Dreaming Tree wrote:he means when you get to the 799 chord at the end, instead of picking your hand up and going back to the starting position of the verse, move your 3rd finger to 9 on the low E, slide down to 3, back up to 5, and right back into the verse.... ive been trying it for a couple minutes and it sounds cool, but you gotta transition out of the slide really smoothly and im just not that good yet, lol
you got it man! you explain it better than i do :x

but yeah, that's it and it matches the exact movements dave does with a little bit of added bass... anyway, i was curious to get people's opinion on trying it out...it does sound really good when you get it down

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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:35 am

goalten106 wrote:if you are trying to perfect the song, you should add a "7" on the A-string between the "8~~~~" on the low E and the "4/5" on the G in the first part. just, you know, if you are trying to perfect it. it sounds cool either way.

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i agree...that is what i do, but the tabs that i copied from this site didn't have it...i just noticed that too

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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:48 am

tjmac66pc wrote:
goalten106 wrote:if you are trying to perfect the song, you should add a "7" on the A-string between the "8~~~~" on the low E and the "4/5" on the G in the first part. just, you know, if you are trying to perfect it. it sounds cool either way.

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i agree...that is what i do, but the tabs that i copied from this site didn't have it...i just noticed that too
he only plays that A string back in the day...not anymore though, so either way is perfect. personally every time I have heard someone play the 7th fret A string in there it kinda sounds like garbage. And even when Dave "does" play it like back in the day, it's extremely subtle. So I can see why the tab on this site stands.

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Unread post by Speenis » Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:52 am

now i see what ya mean tj, it is kinda tricky to sneak that in there, but i hear ya... :roll:
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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:56 am

as far as what the topic is about, it's most likely just a matter of dave's hand just moving all over the place to keep the beat, not a matter of hitting a particular string/slide, but I'm sure the slide sounds just fine in there though.

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Unread post by PlayLikeDave » Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:32 am

I have seen several vids of Dave play Billies, and I even saw him play live...I didn't notice any type of slide down to the 9th fret or up first to the 3rd fret. In theory it sounds great for the part, but in reality, I can't see Dave staying in rhythm after adding that in.

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Unread post by goalten106 » Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:40 am

watch the billies vid from storytellers. he does something funky with his hand... something like tjmac describes. whether or not he is actually playing the notes, i cant tell... but the movement is definitely there.
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Unread post by PlayLikeDave » Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:10 am

goalten106 wrote:watch the billies vid from storytellers. he does something funky with his hand... something like tjmac describes. whether or not he is actually playing the notes, i cant tell... but the movement is definitely there.
I have watched the vid countless times. And I watched it even more upon your request...All I see is Dave spreading out his hand to prep for the huge freakin Billies chord. But seriously, to slide down then up then down would be quite tough to do and keep in rhythm. But whatever floats your boat...

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Unread post by tjmac66pc » Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:16 am

PlayLikeDave wrote:
goalten106 wrote:watch the billies vid from storytellers. he does something funky with his hand... something like tjmac describes. whether or not he is actually playing the notes, i cant tell... but the movement is definitely there.
I have watched the vid countless times. And I watched it even more upon your request...All I see is Dave spreading out his hand to prep for the huge freakin Billies chord. But seriously, to slide down then up then down would be quite tough to do and keep in rhythm. But whatever floats your boat...

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honestly it is tough to do at first, but do it for like a half hour straight until you get it, and it's quite a difference...it gives you a 'mental' rhythm too when you're able to do it, because you slide right into the recycle of the verse chords (and it is a really really quick movement)...I don't know, but this is really the only explanation i can think of to describe what it is when watching Dave do it...and he definitely slides below the fifth fret when he's recycling during the verse, so i'm pretty sure this is what he 'may' be doing...

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