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I'm not trying to pick a fight....

Unread post by jrock231 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:56 pm

But this is going to anyway.

For all of you who hate or do not like Everyday, Busted Stuff, and Stand Up. Its called evolution, or maturing. I mean do you really want to hear the exact same style over and over again. Part of being an artists is maturing, evolving your style. They are growing up, have you. Get over your "burn batson at the cross" rants, get over your "stand up sucks" rants. Its called respect. If you have any respect for a musician you'll respect their work. You don't have to love it, but you have to give them a little love for being such a successful band after all these years.

Love it or leave it.

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Unread post by Appfro » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:01 am

as listeners to music we have every right to like or not like an album. we also have every right to tell others what we liked and disliked about that album. we also have the right to compare that album, it's producer, instruments used, lyrics and songs overall to other albums of the same artist and other albums in general. so while you did come here to pick a fight, get over your holier than thou attitude and understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


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Unread post by Grachi » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:01 am

jrock231 wrote:But this is going to anyway.

For all of you who hate or do not like Everyday, Busted Stuff, and Stand Up. Its called evolution, or maturing. I mean do you really want to hear the exact same style over and over again. Part of being an artists is maturing, evolving your style. They are growing up, have you. Get over your "burn batson at the cross" rants, get over your "stand up sucks" rants. Its called respect. If you have any respect for a musician you'll respect their work. You don't have to love it, but you have to give them a little love for being such a successful band after all these years.

Love it or leave it.


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Re: I'm not trying to pick a fight....

Unread post by Brock » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:03 am

jrock231 wrote:But this is going to anyway.

For all of you who hate or do not like Everyday, Busted Stuff, and Stand Up. Its called evolution, or maturing. I mean do you really want to hear the exact same style over and over again. Part of being an artists is maturing, evolving your style. They are growing up, have you. Get over your "burn batson at the cross" rants, get over your "stand up sucks" rants. Its called respect. If you have any respect for a musician you'll respect their work. You don't have to love it, but you have to give them a little love for being such a successful band after all these years.

Love it or leave it.
That's a horrible attitude to have. That's what you call "settling". It's what leads to mediocrity.

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Unread post by Nitro1515 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:04 am

SU is not maturing, it is a step back musically. Pressing the record button while Boyd is warming up and then basing a whole song around one line that you loop the hell out of is no way for this band to make music. They are too talented for that. They had good ideas before they went into the studio and instead they tried something new and it didn't really work out. So of course we can respect them for trying something different, but I'm not going to sit back and accept this band half assing it in the studio which is exactly what they did with SU. Bottom line is they are not trying their hardest and quite frankly I'm getting sick of Dave talking about how easy the past couple albums have been and how it is not like work at all. Hey Dave, would it kill you to bust your ass for a measly 3 months every two years and actually make complex music again.
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Unread post by Appfro » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:04 am

three great arguments. [/thread]

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Unread post by NJPearce22 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:06 am

For being more mature, their music should be a lot deeper and more meaningful than the songs on Stand Up. I'm all about them going in a new direction, but they are headed in the wrong one in my opinion. They aren't setting their standars high enough. The band is very capable of making better music than Stand Up that is entirely different than the first albums. I mean, listen to the new songs of the '04 summer tour. Sugar Will, Good-good Time, Crazy Easy...these are gems. They are still capable of making music different from the early years that are still amazing in their own rights. I don't hate Stand Up, in fact I enjoy it a lot. I'm just saying that they are very capable of making much better music.
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Unread post by jrock231 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:07 am

It's more about respect than anything else. I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Its your god given right. But jesus, thats just my general opinion.

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Unread post by Brock » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:10 am

jrock231 wrote:It's more about respect than anything else. I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Its your god given right. But jesus, thats just my general opinion.
I give my full respect to the band, as they deserve it. That's completely separate from an album. I can't respect an album simply because the musicians are fantastic and had 4 great records 7 years ago if it isn't a good album by itself.
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Unread post by Appfro » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:16 am

once you hear the songs live you hear how great most of them could have been, but they were cut off, stopped from jamming, stopped from being creative and it sucked. dmb is a jam band...sorry, but they are. they need to act like one.

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Unread post by Grachi » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:22 am

Appfro wrote:once you hear the songs live you hear how great most of them could have been, but they were cut off, stopped from jamming, stopped from being creative and it sucked. dmb is a jam band...sorry, but they are. they need to act like one.

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Unread post by Brock » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:23 am

they weren't too shabby musically... not much they can do lyrically any more.
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Unread post by Appfro » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:25 am

:thumbsup: but in a concert you don't care as much for the lyrics.

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Unread post by NJPearce22 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:31 am

Appfro wrote::thumbsup: but in a concert you don't care as much for the lyrics.
That's why Stand Up is a mediocre album.
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Re: I'm not trying to pick a fight....

Unread post by i like tictacs » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:37 am

jrock231 wrote:But this is going to anyway.

For all of you who hate or do not like Everyday, Busted Stuff, and Stand Up. Its called evolution, or maturing. I mean do you really want to hear the exact same style over and over again. Part of being an artists is maturing, evolving your style. They are growing up, have you. Get over your "burn batson at the cross" rants, get over your "stand up sucks" rants. Its called respect. If you have any respect for a musician you'll respect their work. You don't have to love it, but you have to give them a little love for being such a successful band after all these years.

Love it or leave it.
agreed for the most part.

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