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Unread post by Granny33 » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:20 pm

yea, but how come women can't do it?
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Unread post by fatjack » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:31 pm

Granny33 wrote:yea, but how come women can't do it?
i'm pretty sure that they can...
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Unread post by Appfro » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:58 pm

fatjack wrote:
Granny33 wrote:yea, but how come women can't do it?
i'm pretty sure that they can...
they definetly can. its just that when women sing falsetto they use it at different places than men. like in 41, dave uses it to hit those really really high notes at the end of the second verse. when people like whitney use falsetto, they use it for really soft parts of the song. there falsetto is almost lower than their wails. that's the difference. we use it to hit high notes. they use it to hit less high notes that are softer and more intimate. hope i explained that alright, if not, then i will try to find an example.

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Unread post by Trippin Hillbilly » Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:13 pm

Found this:

Women and men have very different technical concerns when it comes to singing. Many men are concerned about the quiet, breathy voice that comes from nowhere in the upper registers, especially when the voice is maturing. The "falsetto" is a a high breathy sound that occurs when the vocal folds vibrate on the very edges, while the the rest of the folds remain non-vibratory and stiff. Although women can experience a falsetto, it is mostly a phenomenon that is more distinct in men. As men head towards the upper limits of the vocal folds ability to vibrate, there is a distinct flip into the falsetto. It can sound like a yodel and be very different in quality from the full voice.
In order for the vocal folds to vibrate there must be sub-glottal pressure. In other words, we inhale the breath and then hold it in by squeezing the vocal folds together. The body does this for lifting and pushing. If the breath is allowed to pass through the vocal folds, they vibrate and sound is created. As the vocal folds are stretched to reach higher notes, they vibrate faster and faster. When they reach their capacity for full voice function, there is a sudden flip into the light breathy falsetto. More air escapes and it is difficult to control the volume. This is a good voice to use to express more tender moments in a song. But, it is difficult to use on a live stage without amplification. There are men who develop this voice and use it in classical music. The are called "falsettists". The falsetto is different from the "head voice". In head voice the folds vibrate in their entirety to produce the lighter, upper notes. There is much more control when using the head voice rather than the falsetto.

So yeah...it's not common for women to be able to sing in falsetto.

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Unread post by Appfro » Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:38 pm

Trippin Hillbilly wrote:Found this:

Women and men have very different technical concerns when it comes to singing. Many men are concerned about the quiet, breathy voice that comes from nowhere in the upper registers, especially when the voice is maturing. The "falsetto" is a a high breathy sound that occurs when the vocal folds vibrate on the very edges, while the the rest of the folds remain non-vibratory and stiff. Although women can experience a falsetto, it is mostly a phenomenon that is more distinct in men. As men head towards the upper limits of the vocal folds ability to vibrate, there is a distinct flip into the falsetto. It can sound like a yodel and be very different in quality from the full voice.
In order for the vocal folds to vibrate there must be sub-glottal pressure. In other words, we inhale the breath and then hold it in by squeezing the vocal folds together. The body does this for lifting and pushing. If the breath is allowed to pass through the vocal folds, they vibrate and sound is created. As the vocal folds are stretched to reach higher notes, they vibrate faster and faster. When they reach their capacity for full voice function, there is a sudden flip into the light breathy falsetto. More air escapes and it is difficult to control the volume. This is a good voice to use to express more tender moments in a song. But, it is difficult to use on a live stage without amplification. There are men who develop this voice and use it in classical music. The are called "falsettists". The falsetto is different from the "head voice". In head voice the folds vibrate in their entirety to produce the lighter, upper notes. There is much more control when using the head voice rather than the falsetto.

So yeah...it's not common for women to be able to sing in falsetto.
i don't really think that is what that paragraph said...it said its more common in men, not Not common in women. but then, if you think about how many women professional singers there are out there compared to how many women there are out there, every single professional women having the ability to sing falsetto would still not be considered common. its very apparent when listening to a singer when they hit falsetto. you just gotta listen.

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Unread post by isaac » Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:40 pm

hah. yeah. i can never make falsetto sound right, so i just work on my natural range.
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Unread post by Appfro » Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:41 pm

im not horrible at it, but i definetly need work on it.

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