Focusing In On Different Members During a Song

Kahn · Unread post by **Kahn** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:54 am

i like tictacs wrote:
KahnTheRevelator wrote:How many other rock acts have a lead guitarist that taps? I'm gonna have to go with Spenis and say as of now, Umphrey's is better than DMB. Not to say I dont love both, I think everyone on these boards loves them some DMB, but with the last 2 albums (not counting BS, I consider LWS) sucking in ways DMB should never suck, I say Umphrey's wins.

Oh, and Leroi and Boyd do work very well together. Early recordings (93,94) of Recently with the long Jam, not Water Wine, are really impressive.
a lead guitarist that taps makes them better in no ways then a lead guitarist who uses a pick. it's just a different technique that can be used to add variance to their sound.

Exactly, Umphreys has a sound I've never heard before. They are completley original. Thats what makes them stand out. DMB had a completley original sound when they started too, but it seems a lot of bands have begun to mimic them, and Umphrey's sound is just fresh right now. Thats all Im reffering to.

i am sam2 · Unread post by **i am sam2** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:12 pm

KahnTheRevelator wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:
KahnTheRevelator wrote:How many other rock acts have a lead guitarist that taps? I'm gonna have to go with Spenis and say as of now, Umphrey's is better than DMB. Not to say I dont love both, I think everyone on these boards loves them some DMB, but with the last 2 albums (not counting BS, I consider LWS) sucking in ways DMB should never suck, I say Umphrey's wins.

Oh, and Leroi and Boyd do work very well together. Early recordings (93,94) of Recently with the long Jam, not Water Wine, are really impressive.
a lead guitarist that taps makes them better in no ways then a lead guitarist who uses a pick. it's just a different technique that can be used to add variance to their sound.
Exactly, Umphreys has a sound I've never heard before. They are completley original. Thats what makes them stand out. DMB had a completley original sound when they started too, but it seems a lot of bands have begun to mimic them, and Umphrey's sound is just fresh right now. Thats all Im reffering to.

well...so dmb isnt original because people copied them?
i know its opinion, but to me, umphrey's isnt super-original either...i just got the cd anchor drops and to me they sound a lot like a more rock-esque version of phish

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:19 pm

KahnTheRevelator wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:
KahnTheRevelator wrote:How many other rock acts have a lead guitarist that taps? I'm gonna have to go with Spenis and say as of now, Umphrey's is better than DMB. Not to say I dont love both, I think everyone on these boards loves them some DMB, but with the last 2 albums (not counting BS, I consider LWS) sucking in ways DMB should never suck, I say Umphrey's wins.

Oh, and Leroi and Boyd do work very well together. Early recordings (93,94) of Recently with the long Jam, not Water Wine, are really impressive.
a lead guitarist that taps makes them better in no ways then a lead guitarist who uses a pick. it's just a different technique that can be used to add variance to their sound.
Exactly, Umphreys has a sound I've never heard before. They are completley original. Thats what makes them stand out. DMB had a completley original sound when they started too, but it seems a lot of bands have begun to mimic them, and Umphrey's sound is just fresh right now. Thats all Im reffering to.

I see, but be careful not to let their fresh sound blind you to the fact that you are comparing musicians from two totally different styles of music, and in no way do i think umphrey's is more talented then dmb.

Kahn · Unread post by **Kahn** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:33 pm

different strokes. Its all good baby

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:51 pm

KahnTheRevelator wrote:different strokes. Its all good baby

now you're talking :lol:

markTR · Unread post by **markTR** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:25 pm

i love DMB and umphs both

could dave pull some of the stuff that bayliss and cinninger do as good as they do it as a lead guitarist, probably not

but on the other hand, bayliss or cinninger would most likely not be able to play the repetitive, insanely original and awesome sounding riffs that dave has produced, in the same way dave does

different styles, all great music

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:34 pm

i like tictacs wrote:
BigSpeen3436 wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:
BigSpeen3436 wrote: You should listen to Umphrey's McGee Sam. Then you realize you don't need to say "(dare I say it)" because you understand that DMB isn't the best band out there.
that's entirely subjective. i dont think umphrey's is in any way superior to DMB, although I enjoy both of their music a great deal.
No shit. You should see them live. Two of the best guitarists out there, in the same band. Then throw in Kris Myers, who, IMO, is *gasp* better than Carter. Yeah its all subjective, but musician-wise, Umphrey's is superior.
exactly why i can't stand them, two guitarists is two guitarists too many. and i doubt in any way that they are musically 'superior' or whatever you said. two totally different styles of music. the guys in the matthews band play a different style of music entirely, and what fits in that style. and don't discount dave as an amazing guitarist, he really is. people say 'oh a bunch of teenangers can learn his songs on a messageboard..." thats well and great and will get you by, but i doubt any of them are playing the songs the exact same way dave is. his style is nearly impossible to copy note for note.

and shredding is not that hard. its just like slap bass, a mindless drivel technique that impresses the weak minded.

and i'm not dissing on umphrey's, i've seen them live and it's a good show, but come on, they are two COMPLETELY different bands.

I think you missed the "

" in my post. I was just messin around. I'm quite aware they are two totally different styles. Right now I just like Umphrey's a lot better because their newest CD is my favorite. I wish I could say that about DMB. You think two guitars is two too many, and thats cool, but I love it. My second favorite band has two guitarists as well, and I'll give you one guess who that band is :lol:

Whoever said Umphrey's is like Phish but more rock-esque is pretty close. I still think the two aren't very similar though. They both have a guitarist that is amazing, but Umphrey's has two. When they play harmonies with each other its just awesome IMO. And shredding isn't hard at all, thats what most of metal is, but I wouldn't consider UM anything close to metal, which is why I like them. Both guitarists can shred but its not like anything I've ever heard before.

/end obsessive rant about UM

Speenis · Unread post by **Speenis** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:39 pm

markusDMB33 wrote:i love DMB and umphs both

could dave pull some of the stuff that bayliss and cinninger do as good as they do it as a lead guitarist, probably not

but on the other hand, bayliss or cinninger would most likely not be able to play the repetitive, insanely original and awesome sounding riffs that dave has produced, in the same way dave does

different styles, all great music

I 100% guarantee you they could. Have you heard "The Pequod"? BUT, I would have to say that neither of them could have come up with some of Daves crazy riffs. Jake and Dave both have totally different styles. Jake went to Berkeley (at least I'm pretty sure he did) and Dave was self-taught/taught by Tim. Also, everyone who likes Tim or UM should download the acoustic version of Walletsworth. Listen to it and tell me it doesn't sound a tad like Tim...

http://www.archive.org/download/um2005- ... 03_vbr.mp3

markTR · Unread post by **markTR** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:12 pm

i totally forgot about the pequod, indeed a dave-esque type riff/pattern

and thanks for the acoustic walletsworth, good stuff

coyoteguy · Unread post by **coyoteguy** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:35 am

yea, I tell my g/f sometimes during a song to let me know when you here Stefan, or let me know when you hear Boyd, and so on...
you can really pick out what everyguy is doing

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