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Unread post by Brock » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:39 pm

i am sam2 wrote:
crash_in_to_me wrote:
mbgreen wrote:Tim had a really heavy hand in terms of composition early on.
that and he played all the guitar parts on under the table and dreaming
he did? so he played the wwys riff? he played both parts (obviously not at the same time) in satellite? he played 34? jimi thing? ants? i doubt it.

im not saying for sure that youre wrong, i just didnt know that...where did you hear/read that?
Dave has said in multiple interviews (probably nowhere online anymore, this was back in the 90's) that Tim would double all of Dave's guitar parts and Lillywhite would turn Tims' up to about 90% and Dave's down to 10%.
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Unread post by musicalman865 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:39 pm

i am sam2 wrote:
crash_in_to_me wrote:
mbgreen wrote:Tim had a really heavy hand in terms of composition early on.
that and he played all the guitar parts on under the table and dreaming
he did? so he played the wwys riff? he played both parts (obviously not at the same time) in satellite? he played 34? jimi thing? ants? i doubt it.

im not saying for sure that youre wrong, i just didnt know that...where did you hear/read that?
no dave did play these parts too, just lillywhite had dave turn down and tim and dave basically doubled the same parts.

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Unread post by musicalman865 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:41 pm

bbatsell wrote:
i am sam2 wrote:
crash_in_to_me wrote:
mbgreen wrote:Tim had a really heavy hand in terms of composition early on.
that and he played all the guitar parts on under the table and dreaming
he did? so he played the wwys riff? he played both parts (obviously not at the same time) in satellite? he played 34? jimi thing? ants? i doubt it.

im not saying for sure that youre wrong, i just didnt know that...where did you hear/read that?
Dave has said in multiple interviews (probably nowhere online anymore, this was back in the 90's) that Tim would double all of Dave's guitar parts and Lillywhite would turn Tims' up to about 90% and Dave's down to 10%.
ohhps, ya what he said

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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:47 pm

bbatsell wrote:
i am sam2 wrote:
crash_in_to_me wrote:
mbgreen wrote:Tim had a really heavy hand in terms of composition early on.
that and he played all the guitar parts on under the table and dreaming
he did? so he played the wwys riff? he played both parts (obviously not at the same time) in satellite? he played 34? jimi thing? ants? i doubt it.

im not saying for sure that youre wrong, i just didnt know that...where did you hear/read that?
Dave has said in multiple interviews (probably nowhere online anymore, this was back in the 90's) that Tim would double all of Dave's guitar parts and Lillywhite would turn Tims' up to about 90% and Dave's down to 10%.
i remember reading some shit about that i will try to find an article

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Unread post by Kahn » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:47 pm

Its in the interview in the cherry hill book for L@LC

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Unread post by Coldchillin » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:56 pm

I thought Dave wrote a lot of his stuff before playing it for anyone (to the guy who said Tim wrote Dave's parts...)
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Unread post by i am sam2 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:57 pm

bbatsell wrote:
i am sam2 wrote:
crash_in_to_me wrote:
mbgreen wrote:Tim had a really heavy hand in terms of composition early on.
that and he played all the guitar parts on under the table and dreaming
he did? so he played the wwys riff? he played both parts (obviously not at the same time) in satellite? he played 34? jimi thing? ants? i doubt it.

im not saying for sure that youre wrong, i just didnt know that...where did you hear/read that?
Dave has said in multiple interviews (probably nowhere online anymore, this was back in the 90's) that Tim would double all of Dave's guitar parts and Lillywhite would turn Tims' up to about 90% and Dave's down to 10%.
well i definately didnt know that...
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Unread post by Kahn » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:00 am

Coldchillin23222 wrote:I thought Dave wrote a lot of his stuff before playing it for anyone (to the guy who said Tim wrote Dave's parts...)
Pre Tim and Dave I thought the only stuff he had written was STJL, OIAWA, and Mother's Night.

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Unread post by Davy28 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:25 am

He had written BOWA and Recently as well.
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Unread post by c_tietze » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:55 pm

That's why Dave is truly a star and brilliant. He surrounds himself with exceptional musicians and as anyone who is a musician knows, skill and knowledge of an instrument does not make one a rock star (if that's what you want). It takes a special person, with the "it" factor. Dave's got this and I think that Tim in his infinite wisdom did teach and "give" to Dave because Dave was the type of guy who could shine with the proper skills.

In reality none of us would know of Tim Reynolds if it wasn't for Tim Reynolds forming a mentor/teaching-like relationship with Dave Matthews and Dave becoming famous.
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Unread post by Kahn » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:01 pm

Good point.

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Unread post by MrMister612 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:59 pm

c_tietze wrote:That's why Dave is truly a star and brilliant. He surrounds himself with exceptional musicians and as anyone who is a musician knows, skill and knowledge of an instrument does not make one a rock star (if that's what you want). It takes a special person, with the "it" factor. Dave's got this and I think that Tim in his infinite wisdom did teach and "give" to Dave because Dave was the type of guy who could shine with the proper skills.

In reality none of us would know of Tim Reynolds if it wasn't for Tim Reynolds forming a mentor/teaching-like relationship with Dave Matthews and Dave becoming famous.
I think you are giving tim too much credit, he is not the greatest guitar player ever and infinitely wise.

In other words I dont think tim tought everything dave knows, but yea I'd say tim is on my top 50 guitar players of all time.

Also, I wouldn't classify boyd, leroi, and butch as the top musicians of thier instruments.
But, they just work so well together on stage. Hell, none of them are outstanding. Carter is probably the most outstanding. (tim is outstanding but he is not in DMB)

Recently dave seems like he is pushing himself away from the exceptional musicians....no more guests like tim or bela on the recent albums.

Yea, we probably wouldn't know of tim reynolds if not for dave, but there are countless others just like that.

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Unread post by Brock » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:05 pm

MrMister612 wrote:
c_tietze wrote:That's why Dave is truly a star and brilliant. He surrounds himself with exceptional musicians and as anyone who is a musician knows, skill and knowledge of an instrument does not make one a rock star (if that's what you want). It takes a special person, with the "it" factor. Dave's got this and I think that Tim in his infinite wisdom did teach and "give" to Dave because Dave was the type of guy who could shine with the proper skills.

In reality none of us would know of Tim Reynolds if it wasn't for Tim Reynolds forming a mentor/teaching-like relationship with Dave Matthews and Dave becoming famous.
I think you are giving tim too much credit, he is not the greatest guitar player ever and infinitely wise.
I think you are giving reading too little credit.

He didn't say anything close to that.
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Unread post by musicalman865 » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:02 am

bbatsell wrote:
MrMister612 wrote:
c_tietze wrote:That's why Dave is truly a star and brilliant. He surrounds himself with exceptional musicians and as anyone who is a musician knows, skill and knowledge of an instrument does not make one a rock star (if that's what you want). It takes a special person, with the "it" factor. Dave's got this and I think that Tim in his infinite wisdom did teach and "give" to Dave because Dave was the type of guy who could shine with the proper skills.

In reality none of us would know of Tim Reynolds if it wasn't for Tim Reynolds forming a mentor/teaching-like relationship with Dave Matthews and Dave becoming famous.
I think you are giving tim too much credit, he is not the greatest guitar player ever and infinitely wise.

I think you are giving reading too little credit.

He didn't say anything close to that.
true that, he didnt say anything close to that and besides he said they are EXCEPTIONAL musicians already sayin obviously they are not the greatest, i think you are giving to little credit to particularily tim because honestly i dont think there would be dmb or atleast the same dmb if dave had never met tim, tim influenced dave so much and encouraged dave to make a band in the first place

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Unread post by You_Enjoy_Myself » Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:09 am

KahnTheRevelator wrote:
Coldchillin23222 wrote:I thought Dave wrote a lot of his stuff before playing it for anyone (to the guy who said Tim wrote Dave's parts...)
Pre Tim and Dave I thought the only stuff he had written was STJL, OIAWA, and Mother's Night.

What song is that?
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