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Unread post by Appfro » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:19 pm

hey guys. thanks for the responses. the more emotion comment is genious critiquing. i'm going to work on it,i know exactly what you're talking about. something that gets you in to it and give you chill bumps, but not screaming.

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the quality is bad because it was recorded last summer when i was deployed to iraq. i had nothing but the microphone that came w/ my laptop. now i have a good condensor mic and a good recording multieffects pedal. i just need room to set it all up. that's why i was saying i would re-record it. thanks for trying, but i'll have a good quality of it up in a couple weeks hopefully.

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Unread post by mdel21 » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:04 pm

the vocals were too low

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Unread post by MWR » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:02 pm

There's definately a huge amount of potential in this song. Particularly the verse. I don't think emotion is the right word, more like intensity. During the the second or third verse you could ramp up the dynamics and it would make the sweetness of the chorus that much more effective.
You have a really nice falsetto too. We don't get to hear it that much. Maybe try to find a way to incorporate it into the chorus instead of just using it as an ornament. I think a good vertical melody would make the chorus pop alot more.

Can't wait til you get some clean recordings up. They will most definately go into my iTunes library. Now stop reading this and go record!

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Unread post by catho » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:55 am

mdel21 wrote:the vocals were too low
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the quality is bad because it was recorded last summer when i was deployed to iraq. i had nothing but the microphone that came w/ my laptop. now i have a good condensor mic and a good recording multieffects pedal. i just need room to set it all up. that's why i was saying i would re-record it. thanks for trying, but i'll have a good quality of it up in a couple weeks hopefully.
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Unread post by Trippin Hillbilly » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:42 pm

MWR wrote:There's definately a huge amount of potential in this song. Particularly the verse. I don't think emotion is the right word, more like intensity. During the the second or third verse you could ramp up the dynamics and it would make the sweetness of the chorus that much more effective.
You have a really nice falsetto too. We don't get to hear it that much. Maybe try to find a way to incorporate it into the chorus instead of just using it as an ornament. I think a good vertical melody would make the chorus pop alot more.

Can't wait til you get some clean recordings up. They will most definately go into my iTunes library. Now stop reading this and go record!
His falsetto is so good that he reminds me of an R&B singer at times. I can't put my finger on which one at the moment but yeah, the man can sing.

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Unread post by Appfro » Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:55 pm

thanks for the comments guys. mwr, i don't really know what you mean by vertical melody. can you explain. also, i understand what you mean by dynamics, but i'm just not sure what to do about it. i really would like to try to max out this song.

i know the vocals are low del. it's my biggest problem w/ recording. ifyou go back and listen to any ofmy songs, all of the vocals are too low. i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable. i'm just going to start getting someone else to mix for me :oops:

anyway, thanks a billion guys. you are all awesome.

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Unread post by catho » Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:54 am

Appfro wrote:thanks for the comments guys. mwr, i don't really know what you mean by vertical melody. can you explain. also, i understand what you mean by dynamics, but i'm just not sure what to do about it. i really would like to try to max out this song.

i know the vocals are low del. it's my biggest problem w/ recording. ifyou go back and listen to any ofmy songs, all of the vocals are too low. i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable. i'm just going to start getting someone else to mix for me :oops:

anyway, thanks a billion guys. you are all awesome.
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Unread post by catho » Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:58 am

Appfro wrote:thanks for the comments guys. mwr, i don't really know what you mean by vertical melody. can you explain. also, i understand what you mean by dynamics, but i'm just not sure what to do about it. i really would like to try to max out this song.

i know the vocals are low del. it's my biggest problem w/ recording. ifyou go back and listen to any ofmy songs, all of the vocals are too low. i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable. i'm just going to start getting someone else to mix for me :oops:
anyway, thanks a billion guys. you are all awesome.
That's really easy to solve. Get a soundcard or external firewire or USB box that have two recording sources capability. Then just record guitar with a dedicated mic onto one track and record vocals with a dedicated mic onto another track using a multi-track recorder software like Cool Edit.

Then you get two tracks that you can master however you want. Seperate EQs, normalize the vocals (with compression as needed), add seperate hissfilters (much better result since guitar is around one freq. and vocals are around one freq.) and then just mix them together to one track and vóila! You've got a demo tape.
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Unread post by Trippin Hillbilly » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:01 pm

catho wrote:
Appfro wrote:thanks for the comments guys. mwr, i don't really know what you mean by vertical melody. can you explain. also, i understand what you mean by dynamics, but i'm just not sure what to do about it. i really would like to try to max out this song.

i know the vocals are low del. it's my biggest problem w/ recording. ifyou go back and listen to any ofmy songs, all of the vocals are too low. i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable. i'm just going to start getting someone else to mix for me :oops:
anyway, thanks a billion guys. you are all awesome.
That's really easy to solve. Get a soundcard or external firewire or USB box that have two recording sources capability. Then just record guitar with a dedicated mic onto one track and record vocals with a dedicated mic onto another track using a multi-track recorder software like Cool Edit.

Then you get two tracks that you can master however you want. Seperate EQs, normalize the vocals (with compression as needed), add seperate hissfilters (much better result since guitar is around one freq. and vocals are around one freq.) and then just mix them together to one track and vóila! You've got a demo tape.
Umm, I dont think that's what he meant.
Appfro wrote:i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable.

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Unread post by catho » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:36 pm

Trippin Hillbilly wrote:
catho wrote:
Appfro wrote:thanks for the comments guys. mwr, i don't really know what you mean by vertical melody. can you explain. also, i understand what you mean by dynamics, but i'm just not sure what to do about it. i really would like to try to max out this song.

i know the vocals are low del. it's my biggest problem w/ recording. ifyou go back and listen to any ofmy songs, all of the vocals are too low. i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable. i'm just going to start getting someone else to mix for me :oops:
anyway, thanks a billion guys. you are all awesome.
That's really easy to solve. Get a soundcard or external firewire or USB box that have two recording sources capability. Then just record guitar with a dedicated mic onto one track and record vocals with a dedicated mic onto another track using a multi-track recorder software like Cool Edit.

Then you get two tracks that you can master however you want. Seperate EQs, normalize the vocals (with compression as needed), add seperate hissfilters (much better result since guitar is around one freq. and vocals are around one freq.) and then just mix them together to one track and vóila! You've got a demo tape.
Umm, I dont think that's what he meant.
Appfro wrote:i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable.
Wtf?

He meant that he has trouble singing louder because its uncomfortable, you think I misunderstood that?
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Unread post by Appfro » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:55 pm

catho wrote:
Trippin Hillbilly wrote:
catho wrote:
Appfro wrote:thanks for the comments guys. mwr, i don't really know what you mean by vertical melody. can you explain. also, i understand what you mean by dynamics, but i'm just not sure what to do about it. i really would like to try to max out this song.

i know the vocals are low del. it's my biggest problem w/ recording. ifyou go back and listen to any ofmy songs, all of the vocals are too low. i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable. i'm just going to start getting someone else to mix for me :oops:
anyway, thanks a billion guys. you are all awesome.
That's really easy to solve. Get a soundcard or external firewire or USB box that have two recording sources capability. Then just record guitar with a dedicated mic onto one track and record vocals with a dedicated mic onto another track using a multi-track recorder software like Cool Edit.

Then you get two tracks that you can master however you want. Seperate EQs, normalize the vocals (with compression as needed), add seperate hissfilters (much better result since guitar is around one freq. and vocals are around one freq.) and then just mix them together to one track and vóila! You've got a demo tape.
Umm, I dont think that's what he meant.
Appfro wrote:i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable.
Wtf?

He meant that he has trouble singing louder because its uncomfortable, you think I misunderstood that?
you did misunderstand. i was saying that i'm afraid to turn up the volume on the recording. i record vocals and guitar seperate but i never turn the volume of my already recorded vocals high enough to be heard over the volume of the guitar.

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Unread post by catho » Sat Jun 11, 2005 5:06 am

Appfro wrote:
catho wrote:
Trippin Hillbilly wrote:
catho wrote:
Appfro wrote:thanks for the comments guys. mwr, i don't really know what you mean by vertical melody. can you explain. also, i understand what you mean by dynamics, but i'm just not sure what to do about it. i really would like to try to max out this song.

i know the vocals are low del. it's my biggest problem w/ recording. ifyou go back and listen to any ofmy songs, all of the vocals are too low. i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable. i'm just going to start getting someone else to mix for me :oops:
anyway, thanks a billion guys. you are all awesome.
That's really easy to solve. Get a soundcard or external firewire or USB box that have two recording sources capability. Then just record guitar with a dedicated mic onto one track and record vocals with a dedicated mic onto another track using a multi-track recorder software like Cool Edit.

Then you get two tracks that you can master however you want. Seperate EQs, normalize the vocals (with compression as needed), add seperate hissfilters (much better result since guitar is around one freq. and vocals are around one freq.) and then just mix them together to one track and vóila! You've got a demo tape.
Umm, I dont think that's what he meant.
Appfro wrote:i can't make myself turn them up cause then i feel uncomfortable.
Wtf?

He meant that he has trouble singing louder because its uncomfortable, you think I misunderstood that?
you did misunderstand. i was saying that i'm afraid to turn up the volume on the recording. i record vocals and guitar seperate but i never turn the volume of my already recorded vocals high enough to be heard over the volume of the guitar.
:oops: Really sorry then.

Stop being a dimwit then and turn it up! :thumbsup:
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