who screws up the most?

mangold · Unread post by **mangold** » Tue May 17, 2005 8:52 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:1 Boyd
2 Dave
3 Leroi
4 Carter
5 Stephan
6 Butch

hmm i think id put stefan above carter... and i didnt know butch was so flawless

Sciaracastro · Unread post by **Sciaracastro** » Tue May 17, 2005 8:55 pm

praisedave wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:1 Boyd
2 Dave
3 Leroi
4 Carter
5 Stephan
6 Butch
hmm i think id put stefan above carter... and i didnt know butch was so flawless

stefan is very very accurate...and fonzy's bass lines are much easier than Carter's fills

i am sam2 · Unread post by **i am sam2** » Tue May 17, 2005 9:07 pm

praisedave wrote:
Sciaracastro wrote:1 Boyd
2 Dave
3 Leroi
4 Carter
5 Stephan
6 Butch
hmm i think id put stefan above carter... and i didnt know butch was so flawless

ive only noticed stefan mess up once and that was during his star spangled banner at CP...

Kahn · Unread post by **Kahn** » Tue May 17, 2005 9:26 pm

I honestly think if Boyd was never in the band, it wouldn't have taken away from much. Like in Roseland where he was turned down so low, and they cranked Butch, Butch picks up all of his slack and then some. Sorry BT, just not a fan. Oh and Boyd single handidly makes DMB top five ugliest bands ever right under Green Day and Tom Petty.

sk8r · Unread post by **sk8r** » Tue May 17, 2005 9:36 pm

i guess they had they might have put the wrong BT in the band.... but yea i think boyd is needed in the band in a way. but i have to say im really liking the stuff butch does more and more...like in 2 step jams i have been listening to when he goes crazy on the piano...i really dig it

Davy28 · Unread post by **Davy28** » Tue May 17, 2005 9:39 pm

Dutch17 wrote:ya agreed on boyd. ever heard the 41 jam with the flecktones? om the thing is great until the end when boyd starts playing and is sooo out of tune it makes my face hurts

You mean the one from 2002? I've heard that one and you are right. Its rediculous how noticeably out of tune he is, near the end when he plays those four notes drawn out.

HCHaikuWarrior · Unread post by **HCHaikuWarrior** » Tue May 17, 2005 9:51 pm

dave messes up?

Coldchillin · Unread post by **Coldchillin** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:07 pm

Yeah. Even on Listener Supported during the one part of Jimi Thing. I posted it before, but he starts playing the riff too early or something at the one point, oh well.

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:24 pm

KahnTheRevelator wrote:I honestly think if Boyd was never in the band, it wouldn't have taken away from much..

there would not be a dmb without boyd. and i'm not just saying that in the figurative "oh he is SO dmb" bullshit sense. i mean literally, no band. part of the reason they had so much chemistry together was what boyd added to stuff, have you ever head the story about their tripping billies recording?

boyd was kinda the glue for a while, and also sort of a front man as he talked a lot more than dave did in the beginning.

jsgksu · Unread post by **jsgksu** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:27 pm

HCHaikuWarrior wrote:dave messes up?

sarcasm I hope

Nitro1515 · Unread post by **Nitro1515** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:28 pm

Jay wrote:
KahnTheRevelator wrote:I honestly think if Boyd was never in the band, it wouldn't have taken away from much..
there would not be a dmb without boyd. and i'm not just saying that in the figurative "oh he is SO dmb" bullshit sense. i mean literally, no band. part of the reason they had so much chemistry together was what boyd added to stuff, have you ever head the story about their tripping billies recording?

boyd was kinda the glue for a while, and also sort of a front man as he talked a lot more than dave did in the beginning.

Very true, he was the final piece to the puzzle.

jsgksu · Unread post by **jsgksu** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:29 pm

Jay wrote:
KahnTheRevelator wrote:I honestly think if Boyd was never in the band, it wouldn't have taken away from much..
there would not be a dmb without boyd. and i'm not just saying that in the figurative "oh he is SO dmb" bullshit sense. i mean literally, no band. part of the reason they had so much chemistry together was what boyd added to stuff, have you ever head the story about their tripping billies recording?

boyd was kinda the glue for a while, and also sort of a front man as he talked a lot more than dave did in the beginning.

He might be out of tune every now and then (or more often) but still, hes one of two elements (leroi being the other) that make them different then a lot of rock bands. Youd think hed be in tune more often but still, he is an amazing musician and I like what he brings.

Davy28 · Unread post by **Davy28** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:48 pm

Dave goofs up lyrics frequently when playing solo. He has messed up the "so much you have...." part in crush several times and sang "crazy, I'm thinking" by mistake.

carter29 · Unread post by **carter29** » Wed May 18, 2005 5:49 am

On that hello again version from austriala someone posted dave has a messy solo and shouts "guitar for dummies", kinda messes up i think

c_tietze · Unread post by **c_tietze** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:30 am

I don't know who "screws up the most" but I can say that the weakest member of Dave Matthews Band musically speaking, with regard to timing, composition and accuracy is Dave Matthews.

He's always been the weakest link musically. He writes great songs and has the it factor, but consider why he surrounded himself with some of the best jazz players around.

At one point Dave never even thought he would sing his own songs and he was most definitely a "closet-guitarist".

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I love Dave's music and I appreciate it greatly how the songs are always a little different with regard to lyrics and performance.

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