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Unread post by musicalman865 » Sun May 15, 2005 2:24 pm

i know this might sound crazy, but compared to a lot of guitarts, and i know i have a point. Could Dave be better than some of the great guitarists out there in his own way? I mean Daves songs might be simple melodies, but hes a strong guitar player holding his riffs that would fatigue the best of some of them especially strumming and picking away a 20 song set. Take a song like Two Step, holding the chord rythm and then into the verse? Idk about anyone else but that can get too. Loving Wings? Holds the same riff together for more than 6 minutes, One Sweet World intro? AATW The verse then into the Jam back? "Stay" esp the outro. Talk about endurance. Just a thought.

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Unread post by GSR » Sun May 15, 2005 2:30 pm

Y'think he's better than John Mayer?
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Unread post by i-am-me » Sun May 15, 2005 2:44 pm

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Re: dave better than some of the best in his own way

Unread post by i like tictacs » Sun May 15, 2005 2:49 pm

musicalman865 wrote:i know this might sound crazy, but compared to a lot of guitarts, and i know i have a point. Could Dave be better than some of the great guitarists out there in his own way? I mean Daves songs might be simple melodies, but hes a strong guitar player holding his riffs that would fatigue the best of some of them especially strumming and picking away a 20 song set. Take a song like Two Step, holding the chord rythm and then into the verse? Idk about anyone else but that can get too. Loving Wings? Holds the same riff together for more than 6 minutes, One Sweet World intro? AATW The verse then into the Jam back? "Stay" esp the outro. Talk about endurance. Just a thought.

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Personally I think he's very underrated. People say 'oh if i bunch of teenage kids can learn his stuff off of a message board he can't be that good.' but his creativity, solid playing and writing are all exteremely impressive.

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Unread post by hcole » Sun May 15, 2005 2:49 pm

Get real.

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Re: dave better than some of the best in his own way

Unread post by i-am-me » Sun May 15, 2005 2:51 pm

i like tictacs wrote:
musicalman865 wrote:i know this might sound crazy, but compared to a lot of guitarts, and i know i have a point. Could Dave be better than some of the great guitarists out there in his own way? I mean Daves songs might be simple melodies, but hes a strong guitar player holding his riffs that would fatigue the best of some of them especially strumming and picking away a 20 song set. Take a song like Two Step, holding the chord rythm and then into the verse? Idk about anyone else but that can get too. Loving Wings? Holds the same riff together for more than 6 minutes, One Sweet World intro? AATW The verse then into the Jam back? "Stay" esp the outro. Talk about endurance. Just a thought.

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Personally I think he's very underrated. People say 'oh if i bunch of teenage kids can learn his stuff off of a message board he can't be that good.' but his creativity, solid playing and writing are all exteremely impressive.
i agree.
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Re: dave better than some of the best in his own way

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i-am-me wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:
musicalman865 wrote:i know this might sound crazy, but compared to a lot of guitarts, and i know i have a point. Could Dave be better than some of the great guitarists out there in his own way? I mean Daves songs might be simple melodies, but hes a strong guitar player holding his riffs that would fatigue the best of some of them especially strumming and picking away a 20 song set. Take a song like Two Step, holding the chord rythm and then into the verse? Idk about anyone else but that can get too. Loving Wings? Holds the same riff together for more than 6 minutes, One Sweet World intro? AATW The verse then into the Jam back? "Stay" esp the outro. Talk about endurance. Just a thought.

peace
Personally I think he's very underrated. People say 'oh if i bunch of teenage kids can learn his stuff off of a message board he can't be that good.' but his creativity, solid playing and writing are all exteremely impressive.
i agree.
I also agree he's underrated.

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Re: dave better than some of the best in his own way

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i-am-me wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:
musicalman865 wrote:i know this might sound crazy, but compared to a lot of guitarts, and i know i have a point. Could Dave be better than some of the great guitarists out there in his own way? I mean Daves songs might be simple melodies, but hes a strong guitar player holding his riffs that would fatigue the best of some of them especially strumming and picking away a 20 song set. Take a song like Two Step, holding the chord rythm and then into the verse? Idk about anyone else but that can get too. Loving Wings? Holds the same riff together for more than 6 minutes, One Sweet World intro? AATW The verse then into the Jam back? "Stay" esp the outro. Talk about endurance. Just a thought.

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Personally I think he's very underrated. People say 'oh if i bunch of teenage kids can learn his stuff off of a message board he can't be that good.' but his creativity, solid playing and writing are all exteremely impressive.
i agree.
i agree too. and I respect him because anyone can play a clapton song just like clapton, very few people can play a dave song like dave. his ability to mute certain strings and play with that continuous strum is insane.

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Unread post by musicalman865 » Sun May 15, 2005 3:51 pm

i think guitar magazine should really focus on overall guitar playing, not just solos and shit, ya never know maybe some day theyll realize what a good guitar player dave is and put him on the cover and not just have people who do flashy shit

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Unread post by bassman462 » Sun May 15, 2005 3:54 pm

i have a friend who im teaching guitar, hes "special" but he says that dave matthews has to be one of the best he says his stuff is amazing to him.
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Unread post by jsgksu » Sun May 15, 2005 3:55 pm

hcole wrote:Get real.
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Re: dave better than some of the best in his own way

Unread post by whip3512 » Sun May 15, 2005 4:36 pm

checkii wrote:
i-am-me wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:
musicalman865 wrote:i know this might sound crazy, but compared to a lot of guitarts, and i know i have a point. Could Dave be better than some of the great guitarists out there in his own way? I mean Daves songs might be simple melodies, but hes a strong guitar player holding his riffs that would fatigue the best of some of them especially strumming and picking away a 20 song set. Take a song like Two Step, holding the chord rythm and then into the verse? Idk about anyone else but that can get too. Loving Wings? Holds the same riff together for more than 6 minutes, One Sweet World intro? AATW The verse then into the Jam back? "Stay" esp the outro. Talk about endurance. Just a thought.

peace
Personally I think he's very underrated. People say 'oh if i bunch of teenage kids can learn his stuff off of a message board he can't be that good.' but his creativity, solid playing and writing are all exteremely impressive.
i agree.
i agree too. and I respect him because anyone can play a clapton song just like clapton, very few people can play a dave song like dave. his ability to mute certain strings and play with that continuous strum is insane.
i totally agree as well. i was playing some dave songs for a friend of mine who can solo quite well, and he was trying to play along and couldn't get it to sound right. "how the fuck do you do the muting on warehouse?" fun stuff, made me feel pretty good for the moment :)
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Unread post by i am sam2 » Sun May 15, 2005 4:48 pm

i was watching guster last night on austin city limits...and the guy made me remember how smooth and fluid dave looks when hes playing. this guy is doin like all choppy downstrokes and you just think about dave...wow...his hands move so perfectly...better than anyone in that regard
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Unread post by Kahn » Sun May 15, 2005 4:56 pm

jsgksu wrote:
hcole wrote:Get real.
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Unread post by KevinGTArch » Sun May 15, 2005 4:58 pm

I hyper-extended a pinky once when I was learning to play DMB. I believe it was the Nature Intro to Billies that did the trick. Granted I was just starting to play guitar and my fingers were unacustomed to the stress but I can't think of too many other guitarists that place such a high demand on finger endurance in contorted chord voicings and rhythym figures.

Many *kids* can play DM guitar pieces but not necessarily using the correct voicings/structure. I've seen some butchered versions of #41 and Crash Into Me that were only vaguely correct in that they at least got the progression right. It really takes a lot of practice to get it sounding right the right way. Dave Matthews is definately underrated as a guitarist.
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