so lets do the theory thing

[ticohans]

i know it's fun and all, and i agree a little messing around can be great, but i know that if i were trying to read through this thread and learn some theory stuff, i'd rather there not be the other stuff. just my opinion

[gcom007]

i know it's fun and all, and i agree a little messing around can be great, but i know that if i were trying to read through this thread and learn some theory stuff, i'd rather there not be the other stuff. just my opinion

yeah, when pittman see's it he'll sweep it clean I assume

[lpittman]

Yeah i agree.. this can turn out to be a great thread, both for learing and reference. .. so that's why i got this from somewhere

[gcom007]

Yeah i agree.. this can turn out to be a great thread, both for learing and reference. .. so that's why i got this from somewhere

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yeah, the links not working, but I put it in the url thing and yep, it looks a lot better than mine!

[Chumpnet]

http://www.cyberfret.com

This is where I go for all my guitar learning needs (except for learning DMB of course). It's great for players of all skill levels especially beginners.

[waffle_house_jam]

inversion is the only word ive understood on this entire thread....im gonna go bang my head against the wall now...

[gravedigger]

inversion is the only word ive understood on this entire thread....im gonna go bang my head against the wall now...

ok, don't do it to much, because its very addicting

come on, theory is fun and enjoyable - and we all know - a must if you want to play Dave Matthews songs the proper way. so study up, and we'll see you all next week on the Theorious Thread.

^not to be taken a tad seriously^

[lpittman]

E minor7 (major-minor-minor) Em7
the crash chord :o C#m7 x - 4 - 2 - 4 - 5 - 0

I hope this helps more than confuses.

peace,
Ken

Ok . im a little confused now. How does that C#m7 rime with the fingering of the dave chord. The dave chord has the following notes

x -- 4 -- 2 - 4 - 5 - 0
x - C# - E - B - E - E

if the chord should consist of a " (major minor minor )" stack, then it would be like this C# - F - G# - B which is somewhat different from the notes in the chord.. i can see the 7th note (B) coming in here, but what the hell is up with that E. i must be completely out of tune with this intervalthinking..

my reasoning:

C# - D - D# - E - F - F# - G - G# - A - A#/Bb - B - C - C#
0 --- 1 -- 2 -- 3 - 4 -- 5 -- 6 -- 7 -- 8 ---- 9 --- 10 - 11 - 12

so the ( major minor minor ) becomes ( 4 step, 3 step , 3 step )
thus (C# - F - G# - B)

Anyway it's half past two in the morning in Europe and i need to get some sleep so i can study for my accounting exams.

cheers
Lars

[ticohans]

well, for starters, since it's a MINOR chord, the stacking of thirds should be minor major minor, not major minor minor. So the chord should be C# E G# B. That's why you're having a hard time with this. The second thing is that the fifth is regularly omitted from chord voicings. It is seen as somewhat unessential. That's what happens in the crash chord. Hope this helps.

[lpittman]

well, for starters, since it's a MINOR chord, the stacking of thirds should be minor major minor, not major minor minor. So the chord should be C# E G# B. That's why you're having a hard time with this. The second thing is that the fifth is regularly omitted from chord voicings. It is seen as somewhat unessential. That's what happens in the crash chord. Hope this helps.

Good to get that sorted.. Maybe gravedigger should alter his post a little, so that other dont use lots of time on figuring this out :)

thanks

Lars

[gravedigger]

well, for starters, since it's a MINOR chord, the stacking of thirds should be minor major minor, not major minor minor. So the chord should be C# E G# B. That's why you're having a hard time with this. The second thing is that the fifth is regularly omitted from chord voicings. It is seen as somewhat unessential. That's what happens in the crash chord. Hope this helps.

Good to get that sorted.. Maybe gravedigger should alter his post a little, so that other dont use lots of time on figuring this out



thanks

Lars

they might learn something by figuring it out, so I'll leave it

[MattyTrane]

....(head explodes!)

[MattyTrane]

Ok i think you guys should put something like this (BUT WAY EASIER AND IN SEGMENTS) in the guitar lessons section, that will help anyone of all abilities im sure, ill make a thread like this in the suggestions board if it makes it easier.

[gravedigger]

Ok i think you guys should put something like this (BUT WAY EASIER AND IN SEGMENTS) in the guitar lessons section, that will help anyone of all abilities im sure, ill make a thread like this in the suggestions board if it makes it easier.

I know its daunting all that stuff. but we're open to specific questions - whatever you don't understand, just ask.

[MattyTrane]

ok, ive been listening to a pretty cool acoustic version of all along the watctower, in which tim pull a cool solo how do i figure out what hes playing without using a tab. Should i just solo in the key of the chords of the song? like A G F G or based of scales or what?