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gravesRR7 · Unread post by **gravesRR7** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:25 pm

this song is so sweet, anyone know where i can get an accurate tab?

QuattroDore · Unread post by **QuattroDore** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:35 pm

Isn't this the numbered song that is very similar to Everyday? Or am I thinking of #36?

1eyed_jack · Unread post by **1eyed_jack** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:36 pm

yeah, you're thinking of 36

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:31 pm

gravesRR7 wrote:this song is so sweet, anyone know where i can get an accurate tab?

said it before, but i'll say it again... get the tab book, thats how i learned it

Davy28 · Unread post by **Davy28** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:53 pm

Tab books are generally crap, because if you play what they say and then watch dave play it, it is not consistent. I about cried when I saw the tab of the stone from the BTCS book. They were using open notes for the intro!!! It is easier that way, but not correct. Jknater or someone else should get his hands on a video of 34.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:59 pm

Davy28 wrote:Tab books are generally crap, because if you play what they say and then watch dave play it, it is not consistent. I about cried when I saw the tab of the stone from the BTCS book. They were using open notes for the intro!!! It is easier that way, but not correct. Jknater or someone else should get his hands on a video of 34.

OH MY FREAKIN GOD! i'm so tired of everyone saying that the tab books are inaccurate because some of the songs don't show you how to play it "just like dave"! every single note is accurate even if they are played in a different position... and yes the stone does say play an open note... but if you actually took the time to read the music you could figure out a different way of playing. heck, i know how to play the stone FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS (including dave's way, which i stumble upon before finding this site)!

and as for #34, all the notes are accurate, and i'm pretty positive the positions are "correct" as well because of the shapes it uses.

playing like just the way dave play's it won't make you better, making mistakes and finding new ways to play songs you already WILL...

Ando · Unread post by **Ando** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:02 pm

fatjack wrote:
Davy28 wrote:Tab books are generally crap, because if you play what they say and then watch dave play it, it is not consistent. I about cried when I saw the tab of the stone from the BTCS book. They were using open notes for the intro!!! It is easier that way, but not correct. Jknater or someone else should get his hands on a video of 34.
OH MY FREAKIN GOD! i'm so tired of everyone saying that the tab books are inaccurate because some of the songs don't show you how to play it "just like dave"! every single note is accurate even if they are played in a different position... and yes the stone does say play an open note... but if you actually took the time to read the music you could figure out a different way of playing. heck, i know how to play the stone FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS (including dave's way, which i stumble upon before finding this site)!

and as for #34, all the notes are accurate, and i'm pretty positive the positions are "correct" as well because of the shapes it uses.

playing like just the way dave play's it won't make you better, making mistakes and finding new ways to play songs you already WILL...

Chill out.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:04 pm

im chilled

, i'd just like a better explanation as to why the tab books are such "crap"

Ando · Unread post by **Ando** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:10 pm

fatjack wrote:im chilled , i'd just like a better explanation as to why the tab books are such "crap"

Allright then.

Anyhow, Don't you think if their is a tab book on an Artist it should be what he/she plays? Not necessarily exactly, but pretty damn close.

If i were to get a tab book i would want to play it the way Dave plays it, not how some Joe Schmoe plays it. I do get what you are saying about people always calling tab books crap, just because a few songs are F'ed up a lil.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:14 pm

andyrice_13 wrote:
fatjack wrote:im chilled , i'd just like a better explanation as to why the tab books are such "crap"
Allright then.

Anyhow, Don't you think if their is a tab book on an Artist it should be what he/she plays? Not necessarily exactly, but pretty damn close.

If i were to get a tab book i would want to play it the way Dave plays it, not how some Joe Schmoe plays it.

well, i've stated earlier that the songs are a note by note transcription of his songs. many of them (not all) aren't tabbed out just like it is played like dave...

and consider this perhaps, Mr. Schmoe can't stretch like dave because he hads small hands, perhaps he would like to have an alternate, less strenuous way to play the song...

and i hate to sound more mean than i already have :oops:

, but if you feel like you must play it exactly like dave in every way, then Mr. Schmoe will go on to other artists' songs and will surpass your guitar playing by many miles...

Ando · Unread post by **Ando** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:25 pm

fatjack wrote:
andyrice_13 wrote:
fatjack wrote:im chilled , i'd just like a better explanation as to why the tab books are such "crap"
Allright then.

Anyhow, Don't you think if their is a tab book on an Artist it should be what he/she plays? Not necessarily exactly, but pretty damn close.

If i were to get a tab book i would want to play it the way Dave plays it, not how some Joe Schmoe plays it.
well, i've stated earlier that the songs are a note by note transcription of his songs. many of them (not all) aren't tabbed out just like it is played like dave...

and consider this perhaps, Mr. Schmoe can't stretch like dave because he hads small hands, perhaps he would like to have an alternate, less strenuous way to play the song...

and i hate to sound more mean than i already have , but if you feel like you must play it exactly like dave in every way, then Mr. Schmoe will go on to other artists' songs and will surpass your guitar playing by many miles...

Not all of Dave's songs require a strenous stretch, although a beginner or a person with small hands might find it hard at first to play those songs that do require stretches, it is good for the person to develop their hands by practicing those stretches. I don't have large hands by any means, and it was hard as hell at first to get em down. But by PRACTICING my hands have gotten stronger and more flexible...

It's not always good to take the easy way out my friend..

basically you are saying that you cannot become a great guitar player by playin Dave's stuff. I do play stuff other than Dave.. it would get boring with the same old shit day after day, But i do find that Daves stuff is the most fun to play.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:34 pm

yes, but stronger and more flexible at WHAT? :lol:

and it isn't necessarily the easy way out, i'd rather see one of my students trying to learn one song as many different ways as possible than playing the hardest way possible... this requires you to think and be creative, which, unfortunately, guitarists don't do quite enough of...

NoNotThat · Unread post by **NoNotThat** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:44 pm

I have small hands. I have tried playing various "accurate" dave tabs and there are a few that I just can't...I have to play it the Joe Schmoe way...

Ando · Unread post by **Ando** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:50 pm

I am just saying that since I have the ability to play Dave the way he actually plays it, that's the way I'll do it. If not I wouldn't come around here.. I'd go to guitartabs.cc or mxtabs or something... they have alot of inaccurate Joe Schmoe tabs.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:05 pm

andyrice_13 wrote:I am just saying that since I have the ability to play Dave the way he actually plays it, that's the way I'll do it. If not I wouldn't come around here.. I'd go to guitartabs.cc or mxtabs or something... they have alot of inaccurate Joe Schmoe tabs.

im not saying that this site is not a valuable resource, because it is
the point im trying to make is that you shouldn't fell bound by the tabs on this site or any other site, you should be free to experiment on your own, that will make you twice as good as you are now

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