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Unread post by Appfro » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:37 pm

i've just never been a fan of the way you tell people things. you seem like one of those guys that i would want to punch in the back of the head cause you would look down on me for wearing a wal-mart sweatshirt. none of the rest of can give this guy advice. personally, i agreed w/ the "clustered noise" part of your post, but instead i would have tried to tell him what he can do better.
Beauford33 wrote:Other then that last sentense (which I will take out), I do not see how what I said was negative.
that drum solo is the biggest cluster-fuck of noise.
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It seemed as though you were trying to think up any chop you could do and just speed it up and whip around the drums as fast as you good.
semi-negative
It is like someone talking to just hear themself talk.
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We don't have the experience to help him. i played the drums for 3 years and sucked ass at it. so there's no way i nor anyone else here that doensn't play the drums to help him. you're the only one. yet you chose to put him down. it's a shame.

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:49 pm

Alright, then here is my advice at the moment. Slow it down. Give it some breath. It doesnt have to be fill after fill after fill. Get into a groove first. Like in the beginning, but that seemed to break down quickly. Keep a groove going, and just build off of that. It never seemed like there was a standard tempo. It was always chaning, which is not a good thing. It seemed like you got lost in your fills and not really knowing where the 1 was. Just keep it simple. Consider keeping the Hi-hat at a constint tempo to keep time so you are not to lose yourself.

btw, who are you trying to emulate here? I can take a guess, but Id rather you tell me and I would not be mistaken.
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Unread post by i am sam2 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:23 pm

Beauford33 wrote: It never seemed like there was a standard tempo. It was always chaning, which is not a good thing.
thats what i was thinking but i wasnt sure if that can be good. cuz i know like at the carter solo before #36 at red rocks, the beginning of it, i cant follow it...is it changin and not really having a particular 1 or is it just that my counting skills are inferior?
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Unread post by fatjack » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:36 pm

yeah, meter? tempo? where were they?

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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:36 pm

Beauford33 wrote:Alright, then here is my advice at the moment. Slow it down. Give it some breath. It doesnt have to be fill after fill after fill. Get into a groove first. Like in the beginning, but that seemed to break down quickly. Keep a groove going, and just build off of that. It never seemed like there was a standard tempo. It was always chaning, which is not a good thing. It seemed like you got lost in your fills and not really knowing where the 1 was. Just keep it simple. Consider keeping the Hi-hat at a constint tempo to keep time so you are not to lose yourself.

btw, who are you trying to emulate here? I can take a guess, but Id rather you tell me and I would not be mistaken.
that was 100% better than any post I've seen from you.
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:36 pm

fatjack wrote:yeah, meter? tempo? where were they?
thank you.
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Unread post by i like food » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:44 pm

yo beauford can you post a drum solo cause im lovin them ( i dont want to compare i just want to hear another)
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Unread post by i like food » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:44 pm

yo beauford can you post a drum solo cause im lovin them ( i dont want to compare i just want to hear another)
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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:44 pm

yo beauford can you post a drum solo cause im lovin them ( i dont want to compare i just want to hear another)
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Unread post by i like food » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:45 pm

hey that was cool
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:46 pm

please tell me those werent directed towards me
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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:47 pm

i just did it cause he did it.
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:17 pm

well, Ill tell you guys what. Ill go by a few hundered (possibly a thousand) dollars worth of portable recording equipment. Ill put it right at the top of my list.
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Unread post by SockCymbal » Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:15 pm

Beauford - i mostly agree with you, although you aren't taking what i was playing into context. yes, there were no breathers, and it was not in completely standard 4/4 time. however, i played that drum solo in a competition, where the judges wanted to hear what i could do. they didn't want to hear what i couldnt do. they gave everyone a specific amount of time to play within. you've got to take that into context. on top of that, it was live. and on top of that, i was only 15 years old. Gaining wisdom on an instrument, and knowing what to do and what no to do comes with experience. I was only 15, and had really only been playing 3.5-4 years. I'm 19 now, and if i recorded a solo today, it would sound a lot different, i can assure you. I have a solo recorded in my basement studio from when i was 15 also, and i gurantee you wouldn't be able to say the things about this live one about this one. Why? because when I was simply recording it for what I wanted, and not the judges, so there were PLENTLY of breathers in there.

another thing...about tempo/time....when playing a drum solo, personally, i do not like to keep a simple 8th or 16th note or whatever beat on the high hat just to keep time. that is really really boring and simpleminded. when soloing, you aren't playing a song. but that doesn't mean you time can be erratic. as many times as ive listed to this live solo, i always knew where 1 was. where in the rules does it say you cannot speed up or slow down? as long as you do so tastefully, its fine. there is not a "format" for playing soloes...and that goes for any instrument.

so bear those things in mind. #1, i don't care how long you've been playing, thats not an indicator of anything. #2, the purpose was to let it all out for the judges in the alloted time frame, and #3, i was only 15 years old, and #4, calm down.

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:37 pm

Okay, all I heard in that responce was excuse after excuse after excuse. Way to go. And yes, I do noticed it was not in standard 4/4 time, but the changes should not be so rigid. Listen to some of the greats. Weckl, Elvin Jones, Roy Haynes, etc. They all have a "format". I have heard them talk about it. They have sadi so in interviews. I recently bought an Elvin Jones DVD. He explains how he comes up with a solo. He starts off with a basic rudiment and builds off of it. So when you say "there is no format for solo's" you do not know what you are saying.


btw, did you win?
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