Would you download the new album if leaked early?

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:38 pm

HCHaikuWarrior wrote:Ranting did you download the new american baby?

Yes, I did. It's a single, and legaly I can record it off the radio for personal use, so downloading online is just as legal, imo. They also WANT us to hear it, they want to lure you into the album. I don't think this was the best one to put out first for the single musicaly, but I think the meaning behind the song is why they wanted to release it. If you don't get what I am talking about, it was written just a day or two after the Presidential Election.

I do like American Baby, though, don't get me wrong, but I think they could have released a better one. I again will NOT download the album.

Swede · Unread post by **Swede** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:58 pm

Ranting Thespian wrote:
jsgksu wrote:
DJR07 wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:i voted no and id keep to it
then youd go help old ladies cross the street and donate to charities, sure, whatever
Also, I have NEVER downloaded any dmb cds, or tracks from those cds. When Everyday came out, I didn't download it. When Busted Stuff came out, I didn't download it. When Some Devil came out, I didn't download it. I will not download this album, and I never will download an album of anyone's (excluding the LWS, since there is no other way to get it), I will buy them as a cd.

Ranting Thespian wrote:
HCHaikuWarrior wrote:Ranting did you download the new american baby?
Yes, I did. It's a single, and legaly I can record it off the radio for personal use, so downloading online is just as legal, imo. They also WANT us to hear it, they want to lure you into the album. I don't think this was the best one to put out first for the single musicaly, but I think the meaning behind the song is why they wanted to release it. If you don't get what I am talking about, it was written just a day or two after the Presidential Election.

I do like American Baby, though, don't get me wrong, but I think they could have released a better one. I again will NOT download the album.

i dont know what to belive.

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:59 pm

classic

ericwormann · Unread post by **ericwormann** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:03 pm

I'm gonna download it twice and give it to one of my friends just to take Ranting Thespian's place.

Swede · Unread post by **Swede** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:06 pm

winglet82 wrote:I'm gonna download it twice and give it to one of my friends just to take Ranting Thespian's place.

block you PM box, hell is coming your way.

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:23 pm

i would download it early, burn about 100 cd's and sell them to everyone for five dollars a piece and make some money

....just kidding

mbgreen · Unread post by **mbgreen** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:33 pm

Ranting Thespian wrote:
HCHaikuWarrior wrote:Ranting did you download the new american baby?
Yes, I did. It's a single, and legaly I can record it off the radio for personal use, so downloading online is just as legal, imo. They also WANT us to hear it, they want to lure you into the album. I don't think this was the best one to put out first for the single musicaly, but I think the meaning behind the song is why they wanted to release it. If you don't get what I am talking about, it was written just a day or two after the Presidential Election.

I do like American Baby, though, don't get me wrong, but I think they could have released a better one. I again will NOT download the album.

Thieves always justify what they're doing in some manner. "Legally you can record it from the radio for your personal use?" I haven't looked at the laws, but I highly, highly doubt that. Not only is it property of the band, but the broadcast is property of the radio station. When it's on the radio, you don't have unlimited use rights. Since you d/l'd it, you now do. The bottom line is that the single is meant to be purchased with the album, and you stole it.

I'm a thief, so don't think I'm preaching. :wink:

MOE.PHISH · Unread post by **MOE.PHISH** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:47 pm

honestly, if i could download the whole album today i would, would i buy a copy afterwards? really, no sense, im a broke ass 17 yr old kid with no money, i guess its technically stealing but i support the dmb other ways....ie warehouse/merch

katie · Unread post by **katie** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:16 pm

hell yeah I would!

green how's the training going for boot camp? you are probably off to it soon.

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:50 pm

mbgreen wrote:Thieves always justify what they're doing in some manner. "Legally you can record it from the radio for your personal use?" I haven't looked at the laws, but I highly, highly doubt that. Not only is it property of the band, but the broadcast is property of the radio station. When it's on the radio, you don't have unlimited use rights. Since you d/l'd it, you now do. The bottom line is that the single is meant to be purchased with the album, and you stole it.

I'm a thief, so don't think I'm preaching.

Um, yes it's legal mb. As long as it's for private use, and not distributed freely or for money. You can do the same for TV. You can record it, but you can't distribute it.

And you think I am pulling this out of my ass? Here, I even called my local radio station, they said it's 100% legal! Why don't you call yours and check it out for yourself? You can record anything off a public broadcast. It's just for only personal use, no distributing, no burning copies for friends, or for any type of public performance.

So, you want to bitch at me? go suck an egg.

Anyways, I like the new song. It's not their best, but good.

unifaller · Unread post by **unifaller** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:53 pm

You can record anything off the radio as long as its for personal use, you just can't distrubute it or play it for a shit load of people or anything. Ranting knows what hes talking about.

Ranting Thespian · Unread post by **Ranting Thespian** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:42 am

unifaller wrote:You can record anything off the radio as long as its for personal use, you just can't distrubute it or play it for a shit load of people or anything. Ranting knows what hes talking about.

thank you!

DMBGuru · Unread post by **DMBGuru** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:44 am

I would get it, then buy it. I've done this for a few bands already and I've enjoyed every moment of the leak and then enjoyed the real version 10x as much.

I don't know... it just doesn't seem that big a deal to me to get it early.

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:49 am

DMBGuru wrote:I would get it, then buy it. I've done this for a few bands already and I've enjoyed every moment of the leak and then enjoyed the real version 10x as much.

I don't know... it just doesn't seem that big a deal to me to get it early.

same here

mbgreen · Unread post by **mbgreen** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:13 pm

Ranting Thespian wrote:
unifaller wrote:You can record anything off the radio as long as its for personal use, you just can't distrubute it or play it for a shit load of people or anything. Ranting knows what hes talking about.
thank you!

Look up the "fair use" clause. It's legal for time-shifting purposes, NOT for unlimited use rights. The fact that nobody cares or would ever prosecute doesn't make it legal.

And I'm just busting your balls cause you put yourself up there on your high horse. Take your eggs and make some rotten pies.

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