tim reynolds vs stevie ray vaughn

Kukini · Unread post by **Kukini** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:12 pm

GuitarGuy305 wrote:Face it, there is no answer to this question.

And the truth, shall set you free.

Hopeful Rolling Waves · Unread post by **Hopeful Rolling Waves** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:52 pm

There most certainly is an answer to this question from a technical standpoint.

Look at the artists' body of work, for instance, if you sat Tim down with Scuttle Buttin' by SRV, he'd get it. It's technically difficult, but Tim has the ear and the speed to pick it up. While if you put SRV in a room with an ACOUSTIC guitar and asked him to play Reliable Sources by Tim, he wouldn't be able to play that song, cause SRV has no other history with other instruments. Tim's bass guitar, violin, cello, and piano playing are all evident in his style; and give him a huge edge when it comes to technical difficulty. John Mayer is an awesome guitarist, and has done amazing versions of both SRV and Hendrix songs, people just don't realize this, cause he has a stigma attached to him, much like Tim does with Dave.

Both of these guys play with tons of with emotion and heart, no doubt about it. But when it comes down to it, Tim can do way more things with a guitar than SRV ever did.

Matty Boom · Unread post by **Matty Boom** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:55 pm

you're all ridiculous

searly · Unread post by **searly** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:47 pm

hands down S.R.V. If u really have to ask yourself this question you should be playing the bass. Download Lenny at the El Macombo. Then see if you dont sing a different tune.

myxomatosis · Unread post by **myxomatosis** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:06 pm

jellyfish wrote:Watch SRV on Storytellers. Then make your desicion.

SRV has done Storytellers?!? :shock:

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:37 pm

Hopeful Rolling Waves wrote:There most certainly is an answer to this question from a technical standpoint.

Look at the artists' body of work, for instance, if you sat Tim down with Scuttle Buttin' by SRV, he'd get it. It's technically difficult, but Tim has the ear and the speed to pick it up. While if you put SRV in a room with an ACOUSTIC guitar and asked him to play Reliable Sources by Tim, he wouldn't be able to play that song, cause SRV has no other history with other instruments. Tim's bass guitar, violin, cello, and piano playing are all evident in his style; and give him a huge edge when it comes to technical difficulty. John Mayer is an awesome guitarist, and has done amazing versions of both SRV and Hendrix songs, people just don't realize this, cause he has a stigma attached to him, much like Tim does with Dave.

Both of these guys play with tons of with emotion and heart, no doubt about it. But when it comes down to it, Tim can do way more things with a guitar than SRV ever did.

I agree 100%.

Broader musical palette=better musician.

Hopeful Rolling Waves · Unread post by **Hopeful Rolling Waves** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:48 pm

Judging by how most of you have replied here, I am only to asuume that most of you have never really listened to Tim Reynolds outside the context of Dave Matthews whatsoever.

I have seen Live at El Mocambo, Both SRV Montreaux Jazz appearances, and his Austin Texas DVD...as well as hearing the majority of his studio recordings. He was awesome. However, he lacks the variety in his music compared to what anyone in the know would refer to as a "guitar virtuoso."

I am also assuming that most people here haven't heard the track I referenced in my above post, Reliable Sources by Tim. It's an unbelivable display of both slap-bass-on-guitar and acoustic slide guitar. If anyone here wants to read comments of people who've actually bought and listened to Tim's music, here's the Amazon pages for his

Stream album:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 87-5374522

Nomadic Wavelength album:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 110058180/
sr=2-6/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_6/102-0777387-5374522

And the coup-de-grace or so to speak is definitely his Gossip of the Neurons Live album. This guy take guitar IMPROV to a whole new level on this record. No one of sound mind, who honestly knows what they're talking about can listen to a COMPLETELY improvised track like Hermetic Dew Drops (about 9 and half minutes), and then try and tell me that SRV comes even close to the kind of shit Tim can do on a guitar.

Like I said before, John Mayer does a ripping version of Lenny on his Any Given Thursday DVD...but our friend John wouldn't have a chance to try his hand at Tim's Kundalini Bonfire or Metamorphosis. Tim's playing encompasses jazz, blues, country, slide, classical (Ever hear SRV play Courante? I don't think so...), rock and other styles of music.

It's pretty myopic to call a guy who plays one kind of music better than a guy who could sit down with just about any kind of musician in the world, and do something beautiful. SRV just didn't have that range.

To sum it up, if you REALLY believe SRV is a "better guitar player" than Tim Reynolds, you really need to broaden your horizons a bit.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:54 pm

i've always thought that the slapping bass part on reliable sources is rather sloppy

Hopeful Rolling Waves · Unread post by **Hopeful Rolling Waves** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:09 pm

Yah, I bet you think Victor Wooten's bass on Sinister Mister is sloppy too, huh, tough guy?

searly · Unread post by **searly** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:30 pm

speed and diversity is what Tim has got.
Everything else that is important to being a legand?..nod goes to SRV.
who whould you rather be when were all dead and gone? My guess is that history will only remember one of these guys. And it aint Timmy

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:50 pm

searly wrote:speed and diversity is what Tim has got.
Everything else that is important to being a legand?..nod goes to SRV.
who whould you rather be when were all dead and gone? My guess is that history will only remember one of these guys. And it aint Timmy

Good argument. :roll:

gumbomadness · Unread post by **gumbomadness** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:22 pm

i think tim is an AWESOME technical guitarist, and hes very diverse..
but SRV has raw emotion in his stuff, you can feel it all, and sometimes you dont always get the emotion from timmy..
im split on this one...

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:43 pm

gumbomadness wrote:i think tim is an AWESOME technical guitarist, and hes very diverse..
but SRV has raw emotion in his stuff, you can feel it all, and sometimes you dont always get the emotion from timmy..
im split on this one...

Well SRV does play the BLUES. I'm not denying that he was a very passionate guitarist but that's the hallmark of the only style he was known for. Crank up the amp, add a little distortion, and play some minor 3rd bends and everyone can sound "emotional".

Listen to Breathing Space from Gossip of the Neaurons. If that doesn't exude emotion I don't know what does.

Yet another comment from someone who probably hasn't heard more than one song from each of them.

gumbomadness · Unread post by **gumbomadness** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:53 pm

MWR wrote:
gumbomadness wrote:i think tim is an AWESOME technical guitarist, and hes very diverse..
but SRV has raw emotion in his stuff, you can feel it all, and sometimes you dont always get the emotion from timmy..
im split on this one...
Well SRV does play the BLUES. I'm not denying that he was a very passionate guitarist but that's the hallmark of the only style he was known for. Crank up the amp, add a little distortion, and play some minor 3rd bends and everyone can sound "emotional".

Listen to Breathing Space from Gossip of the Neaurons. If that doesn't exude emotion I don't know what does.

Yet another comment from someone who probably hasn't heard more than one song from each of them.

dont be an ass. i happen to have a SRV DVD, and 4 Cd's of his, not to mention ive downloaded 20+ songs of JUST timmy stuff.
damn man, its my opinion, and you judge and assume i havent heard enough of either because im .. what? younger than you? go fuck yourself.

jellyfish · Unread post by **jellyfish** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:03 pm

I personally dont like Tim's solo stuff. There are a few songs I do like but mostly I couldn't listen to him. I'd much prefer SRV

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