flamenco strumming

JazzBassist114 · Unread post by **JazzBassist114** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:31 pm

okay, so i did a search on this and got squat. I'm trying to get better at fingerpicking on an acoustic, and i figure that i should learn about this technique a little if....well....just cuz. if anyone has any links or tips or anything, they'd be much appreciated.

Ryeguy · Unread post by **Ryeguy** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:38 pm

http://www.ctv.es/USERS/norman/

hey, this is a link that website that explains how to play different flamanco techniques.. Its pretty good.. I may be mistaken but I think it helps to have a nylon string guitar for flamanco.

JazzBassist114 · Unread post by **JazzBassist114** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:35 pm

ok...
thanks, man...much appreciated, but i'm more interested in the technique than the style...

mangold · Unread post by **mangold** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:30 am

you wanna learn it? good luck matt-o.
im interested in this as well, i believe you have some info mike?

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:31 pm

JazzBassist114 wrote:ok...
thanks, man...much appreciated, but i'm more interested in the technique than the style...

how can you learn the technique without playing the style?

JazzBassist114 · Unread post by **JazzBassist114** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:44 pm

well, i mean, i want to learn flamenco strumming, but not necessarily for use in playing flamenco, you know? like...i really don't know what to compare it to, but my last post was worded properly. it should have said "i'm more interested in learning HOW to strum, than learning what to strum." if that makes any sense at all...

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:53 pm

JazzBassist114 wrote:well, i mean, i want to learn flamenco strumming, but not necessarily for use in playing flamenco, you know? like...i really don't know what to compare it to, but my last post was worded properly. it should have said "i'm more interested in learning HOW to strum, than learning what to strum." if that makes any sense at all...

no it doesn't make sense, how do you plan on learning a technique if you don't learn some basic repetiore? that would be like a guitar player saying, "hey i want to learn violin technique, but i don't actually want to pick up a violin"

techniques are inherently associated with a style or styles. how can you possibly learn flamenco strumming without learning any flamenco?

mangold · Unread post by **mangold** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:40 pm

fatjack wrote:
JazzBassist114 wrote:well, i mean, i want to learn flamenco strumming, but not necessarily for use in playing flamenco, you know? like...i really don't know what to compare it to, but my last post was worded properly. it should have said "i'm more interested in learning HOW to strum, than learning what to strum." if that makes any sense at all...
no it doesn't make sense, how do you plan on learning a technique if you don't learn some basic repetiore? that would be like a guitar player saying, "hey i want to learn violin technique, but i don't actually want to pick up a violin"

techniques are inherently associated with a style or styles. how can you possibly learn flamenco strumming without learning any flamenco?

its simple, hes pick-tarded and wants to be able to strum REAL fast

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:21 pm

The most common flamenco technique is the rasquedo. Basically you strum downward with your pinky first and then your ring, middle, index, and thumb follow shortly thereafter. The rhythm is very similar to tapping your fingers on a desk.
I use a modified version of this pretty regularly but I wouldn't equate it to flamenco playing. To use it in that setting would require a much more extensive knowledge of Latin rythtms. If you really want to get into that sound it's a good place to start though.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:18 pm

MWR wrote:The most common flamenco technique is the rasquedo. Basically you strum downward with your pinky first and then your ring, middle, index, and thumb follow shortly thereafter. The rhythm is very similar to tapping your fingers on a desk.
I use a modified version of this pretty regularly but I wouldn't equate it to flamenco playing. To use it in that setting would require a much more extensive knowledge of Latin rythtms. If you really want to get into that sound it's a good place to start though.

ah, nothing like a good quintuplet

Buck · Unread post by **Buck** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:21 pm

Fatjack, are you a music major ...or teacher?

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:26 pm

Forteewon wrote:Fatjack, are you a music major ...or teacher?

both

Buck · Unread post by **Buck** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:45 pm

okay, my buddy is a music major and is quite knowledgable about music...like yourself , and keeps telling me how kyrie Eleison (i think it is gregorain or baroque) is one of the best "composed" pieces of music because of the timing. Do you know what he's talking about, and could you put it in "layman's terms"

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:51 pm

Forteewon wrote:okay, my buddy is a music major and is quite knowledgable about music...like yourself , and keeps telling me how kyrie Eleison (i think it is gregorain or baroque) is one of the best "composed" pieces of music because of the timing. Do you know what he's talking about, and could you put it in "layman's terms"

the Kyrie is a song used in Catholic services during the advent season. the way i've been playing it for years has not been in traditional gregorian chant style. its just like any other Catholic hymn in 3/4. nothing special about the timing

but it may actually be originated from gregorian chant, which is why your friend may be talking about the timing. traditional gregorian chants do not have a time signature, everyone takes cues off of the cantor (vocal leader). so this may be why he thinks the timing is such hot shit.

Buck · Unread post by **Buck** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:59 pm

No he does't think he is the proverbial "shit" but do you know a song "vocally or instrumentally" that would baffle him...I'm sorry if I sound like an idiot but I have zero musical training

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