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by DMBFan63 » Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:52 pm
MWR wrote:natedawg wrote:Ok, I will try and bring some theory into this. If you know what makes a chord, the basic stucture is 3 notes, the first, third and fifth. However, its the third that is the most important note. Depending on what the third is determines if it is major, minor, diminished, augmented, things like that. So lets take a chord for example. 31x3xx This is G,B flat, G. Now a normal G chord would be G,B,D. Since the 3rd or the B is what we are looking at and it is a B flat in this case, it makes the chord minor. So theoretically, I think it would just be called a Gm or G minor chord. That is my take on it. Most of these probably would follow the same idea.
The third determines if it's major or minor but the fifth detirmines if it's aumented or diminished.
I'd be happy to name whatever Dave chords and give an explanation on how to do it. It's a little hard to follow though without a basic knowledge of theory.
Oh and mlb is technically correct in that a chord must contain at least three different notes to be a chord. "Power chord" is one of those terms that is technically incorrect but widely accepted.
Yea, and chords such as an open D(as someone stated open chords don't have 3 notes or something) is a D F# A.
P.S. I just woke up and am not making much sense
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by MWR » Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:37 pm
DMBFan63 wrote:MWR wrote:natedawg wrote:Ok, I will try and bring some theory into this. If you know what makes a chord, the basic stucture is 3 notes, the first, third and fifth. However, its the third that is the most important note. Depending on what the third is determines if it is major, minor, diminished, augmented, things like that. So lets take a chord for example. 31x3xx This is G,B flat, G. Now a normal G chord would be G,B,D. Since the 3rd or the B is what we are looking at and it is a B flat in this case, it makes the chord minor. So theoretically, I think it would just be called a Gm or G minor chord. That is my take on it. Most of these probably would follow the same idea.
The third determines if it's major or minor but the fifth detirmines if it's aumented or diminished.
I'd be happy to name whatever Dave chords and give an explanation on how to do it. It's a little hard to follow though without a basic knowledge of theory.
Oh and mlb is technically correct in that a chord must contain at least three different notes to be a chord. "Power chord" is one of those terms that is technically incorrect but widely accepted.
Yea, and chords such as an open D(as someone stated open chords don't have 3 notes or something) is a D F# A.
P.S. I just woke up and am not making much sense
I think what confuses people is that notes are often double and even tripled. A full on F bar chord is only three different notes, F A C, but the notes are doubled. That's where chord voicings come in.
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by DMBFan63 » Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:50 pm
MWR wrote:DMBFan63 wrote:MWR wrote:natedawg wrote:Ok, I will try and bring some theory into this. If you know what makes a chord, the basic stucture is 3 notes, the first, third and fifth. However, its the third that is the most important note. Depending on what the third is determines if it is major, minor, diminished, augmented, things like that. So lets take a chord for example. 31x3xx This is G,B flat, G. Now a normal G chord would be G,B,D. Since the 3rd or the B is what we are looking at and it is a B flat in this case, it makes the chord minor. So theoretically, I think it would just be called a Gm or G minor chord. That is my take on it. Most of these probably would follow the same idea.
The third determines if it's major or minor but the fifth detirmines if it's aumented or diminished.
I'd be happy to name whatever Dave chords and give an explanation on how to do it. It's a little hard to follow though without a basic knowledge of theory.
Oh and mlb is technically correct in that a chord must contain at least three different notes to be a chord. "Power chord" is one of those terms that is technically incorrect but widely accepted.
Yea, and chords such as an open D(as someone stated open chords don't have 3 notes or something) is a D F# A.
P.S. I just woke up and am not making much sense
I think what confuses people is that notes are often double and even tripled. A full on F bar chord is only three different notes, F A C, but the notes are doubled. That's where chord voicings come in.
Yea, I know what you mean. Usually chords are triads, but have a note in it 3 times
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by lyrics101 » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:05 pm
They're all actual chords. Christ. Tripping Billing billies is Bm, A, G, D. Very standard chord set.
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by Kukini » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:14 pm
No what a normal person would call an A or Bm though.
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by DMBFan63 » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:16 pm
lyrics101 wrote:They're all actual chords. Christ. Tripping Billing billies is Bm, A, G, D. Very standard chord set.
they're not
just standard chords, or they're be played that way. They have variations. That's like called an F7(#9) an F
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by ericwormann » Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:59 am
hmm69 wrote:i just give them made up names for example the 4th chord in crazy i call it a little bitch
Actually, I believe it's a Major Little Bitch.
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by hmm69 » Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:51 am

nice
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by charliemike » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:26 am
What about things like 6-4-x-7-x-x ??
If you throw out the fifth that becomes a completely different chord.
And while a 3-1-x-3 might be a Gm it sounds like shit as a regular Gm

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by DMBFan63 » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:31 am
I take 6-4-x-7-x-x as a A#m(b11)
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by emilioDNC » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:41 am
[quote="mlb1399"]A chord needs 3 notes for it to be a chord.[/quote]
chords are more notes togheter...so they can even need just 2 notes...
here we call 3 notes chords "triadi"...cant translate well though..it means composed by 3

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triadi translates to triad, just a guess though
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by DMBFan63 » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:10 am
emilioDNC wrote:mlb1399 wrote:A chord needs 3 notes for it to be a chord.
chords are more notes togheter...so they can even need just 2 notes...
here we call 3 notes chords "triadi"...cant translate well though..it means composed by 3

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triadi translates to triad, just a guess though[/quote]
With that fucked up quoting, I have no idea what you're trying to say..if you're saying a chord can just have two notes, you're wrong. Chords are based on 3 or more notes. 2 notes together is just harmony.
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by MWR » Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:21 am
I say again.
A chord is THREE different notes played together. Two different notes played together is called an interval. That's it, there are no exceptions.
What about things like 6-4-x-7-x-x ??
If you throw out the fifth that becomes a completely different chord.
And while a 3-1-x-3 might be a Gm it sounds like shit as a regular Gm
I don't know if you meant to write the first chord like that. It has a major AND minor third (doesn't even contain a fifth) which is one of the most dissonant sounds possible.
The second chord is another chord that isn't a chord. It's a Gm third interval. I'm not implying that this really matters because the fifth can omitted and it won't effect the tonality much. In fact guitarist's usually do leave out the fifth and even the root because that's the domain of the bass player.
Thirds, Sixths, and Sevenths are the notes that can be distinctively major or minor. Fifths can be minor or major a.k.a. diminished or augmented but they're very hard to use in popular songwriting. The only place you regularly see diminished and augmented chords is in jazz.
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by MWR » Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:41 am
DMBFan63 wrote:I take 6-4-x-7-x-x as a A#m(b11)
Bravo.
Pretty soon you'll be able to take josh's place so we can have pointless theory discussions.
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by DMBFan63 » Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:51 am
MWR wrote:DMBFan63 wrote:I take 6-4-x-7-x-x as a A#m(b11)
Bravo.
Pretty soon you'll be able to take josh's place so we can have pointless theory discussions.
Man, that made me smile like hell. I can't believe I actually got that right

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