shure beta 58A or 57A?

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:26 pm

for home recording of vocals and guitar, some live performances on vocals, and also possibly for micing an amp, but mostly vocals
cost is not an issue

what is better for me?

dmbvideos · Unread post by **dmbvideos** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:45 pm

I would like to know too. I'm leaning more towards the 57, and I'll still use it for vocals.

Anybody have these mics?

Trippin Hillbilly · Unread post by **Trippin Hillbilly** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:14 pm

I have both, I use them on all my recordings. The 58A for vocals and 57A for guitar. If I had to choose, I would choose the 58A just because the 57A is way too bright for vocals.

I could probably help you with some clips with each mic if ya want...pm me.

Brock · Unread post by **Brock** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:22 pm

Trippin Hillbilly wrote:I have both, I use them on all my recordings. The 58A for vocals and 57A for guitar. If I had to choose, I would choose the 58A just because the 57A is way too bright for vocals.

I could probably help you with some clips with each mic if ya want...pm me.

I think that clips would be awesome to post for everyone else when this question comes up. I can host them.

dmbguitar718 · Unread post by **dmbguitar718** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:23 pm

TrippnBill686 wrote:
Trippin Hillbilly wrote:I have both, I use them on all my recordings. The 58A for vocals and 57A for guitar. If I had to choose, I would choose the 58A just because the 57A is way too bright for vocals.

I could probably help you with some clips with each mic if ya want...pm me.
I think that clips would be awesome to post for everyone else when this question comes up. I can host them.

i can actually do the same thing with mine. i have two audio technica mics. we could get a bunch of people's clips.

Trippin Hillbilly · Unread post by **Trippin Hillbilly** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:24 pm

TrippnBill686 wrote:
Trippin Hillbilly wrote:I have both, I use them on all my recordings. The 58A for vocals and 57A for guitar. If I had to choose, I would choose the 58A just because the 57A is way too bright for vocals.

I could probably help you with some clips with each mic if ya want...pm me.
I think that clips would be awesome to post for everyone else when this question comes up. I can host them.

Ok, will do. Thanks.

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:45 pm

awesome guys, thanks

Trippin Hillbilly · Unread post by **Trippin Hillbilly** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:46 am

Here's some quick clips from each mic. Theyre pretty similar when it comes to recording guitar. For vocals, the 58a is a bit warmer.

http://s2.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26C59 ... 4B00F3AAF2

http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1E959 ... FECDF6C290

CheersDtoT · Unread post by **CheersDtoT** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:46 pm

Your voice dictates the mic selection. If you have a high end voice you can use a 57 (like David Grey uses). If you have a plain simple voice... use a 58. B58 is a vocal mic... a B57 can be used for vocal, but that isn't it's main use. They sound great on stacks, snares, bongos, ect. I wouldn't use a 57 to mic a guitar..... If you wanted a "full sound" you would have to use a condensor. Now when I say condensor you are thinking I don't have the money Greg... well let me tell you a little trick... I'm a guitar player... but I make a career as an audio engineer. Go to your local sound production company (NOT a music store) and ask them how much it is to rent a......lets say a Shure KSM44.... it is probably like $10-25 aday. People don't know about sound companies... and that is the secret. For example I rented a Midas Venice320 ($4,000 board)... 1 Klark-Teck Graphic ($800)... Three Behringer Composers ($300)... a 100' 24/8 Snake ($600)... a Neumann U87($1900)... 3 Beh. FBQ's ($450)... and some cables... now even though I work for the guy; for all that stuff it is only $150 aday. Why buy when you can rent?????? Check it out.

CheersDtoT · Unread post by **CheersDtoT** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:49 pm

Like I was saying about your voice with the proper mic. The best example is the Beta 87. Only certain voices can use that mic... even though it's a good mic it's not for every-one. If you use it with the wrong voice it doesn't any better than a SM58.

Brock · Unread post by **Brock** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:57 pm

Miguel sent me his clips to host and I've been so busy that I just wasn't able to get them up, sorry

Here they are once the yousendits die:
http://bbatsell.dmbtabs.com/files/microphones/57a.mp3
http://bbatsell.dmbtabs.com/files/microphones/58a.mp3

Everyone else, feel free to send me more clips to host. I will probably create a stickied thread to hold all comparisons of pickups and mics, so feel free to use yousendit and PM me clips for me to host.

dmbguitar718 · Unread post by **dmbguitar718** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:57 pm

oh nice. I'll see if I can get my clips done tomorrow.

thejoe · Unread post by **thejoe** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:17 pm

CheersDtoT wrote:Your voice dictates the mic selection. If you have a high end voice you can use a 57 (like David Grey uses). If you have a plain simple voice... use a 58. B58 is a vocal mic... a B57 can be used for vocal, but that isn't it's main use. They sound great on stacks, snares, bongos, ect. I wouldn't use a 57 to mic a guitar..... If you wanted a "full sound" you would have to use a condensor. Now when I say condensor you are thinking I don't have the money Greg... well let me tell you a little trick... I'm a guitar player... but I make a career as an audio engineer. Go to your local sound production company (NOT a music store) and ask them how much it is to rent a......lets say a Shure KSM44.... it is probably like $10-25 aday. People don't know about sound companies... and that is the secret. For example I rented a Midas Venice320 ($4,000 board)... 1 Klark-Teck Graphic ($800)... Three Behringer Composers ($300)... a 100' 24/8 Snake ($600)... a Neumann U87($1900)... 3 Beh. FBQ's ($450)... and some cables... now even though I work for the guy; for all that stuff it is only $150 aday. Why buy when you can rent?????? Check it out.

awesome, thanks

i have a fairly high voice, i think im gonna go with the 57

i live in hickville, usa, so i dont have any sound companies, just some crappy music stores, so i guess i will have to live with it

thank you guys

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