Whats the hardest dmb song/groove on the drums?

Coldchillin · Unread post by **Coldchillin** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:06 am

I'm not a drummer, but I've heard and would agree with Drive In Drive Out and You Never Know.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:15 am

One part in Drive in Drive out and YNK...not so much.

carter29 · Unread post by **carter29** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:52 am

The end of Two Step is actuallynot hard at the end...well the live version is a different story still not too bad. Yes I definately agree with some of the grooves on You never know.

I agree that rapunzel is not hard, you just cant go rite into the song and expectiing to play it perfect, u gotta listen and pratice the timing, its really not to hard when you study it

gravesRR7 · Unread post by **gravesRR7** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:59 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
gravesRR7 wrote:Drive in Drive Out
Say Goodbye

PFWYG is timed stragely it seems

pretty much what you said, i can't think too much right now though

maybe Warehouse salsa jam too, i dunno
If you dont know...then why are you, a non-drummer, telling a drummer what is hard?

i'm just speculating based on how it sounds
that's why i said "I DUNNO" becasue i don't know.

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:36 pm

I've heard grey street is difficult at the end.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:26 pm

carter29 wrote:The end of Two Step is actuallynot hard at the end...well the live version is a different story still not too bad. Yes I definately agree with some of the grooves on You never know.

I agree that rapunzel is not hard, you just cant go rite into the song and expectiing to play it perfect, u gotta listen and pratice the timing, its really not to hard when you study it

Not that hard eh? So Im sure you must be able to do those 32nd note triplets that fast? My drum teacehr was taught by Joe Pocaro (god I hope you know who that is) throughout college and even after and he cant do it. He is be bop jazz player so he has fast hand on him, but he cant do it. I myself cant. I know how to play it, and can for the slower songs. If I tried to make it doubles, I probably could, but Carter plays singles so that is different.

The single stroke roll sat the end of Grey Street are hard, but you can play the same thing with doubles and it will sound the same.

My hardest part goes to the chorus of Fool to Think. Time sig is 9/8 I believe (wrote the whole thing down, just dont want to get up and find it). Off beat snare hits with syncopated tom pattern...along witht he broken up ride patter. It is a toughy. First thought it went over the bar line, but the toms showed a pattern so then I HAD to write it down.

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:35 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
My hardest part goes to the chorus of Fool to Think. Time sig is 9/8 I believe (wrote the whole thing down, just dont want to get up and find it). Off beat snare hits with syncopated tom pattern...along witht he broken up ride patter. It is a toughy. First thought it went over the bar line, but the toms showed a pattern so then I HAD to write it down.

Jesus. I could never figure out what time signature that song was in.

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:21 pm

i like tictacs wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
My hardest part goes to the chorus of Fool to Think. Time sig is 9/8 I believe (wrote the whole thing down, just dont want to get up and find it). Off beat snare hits with syncopated tom pattern...along witht he broken up ride patter. It is a toughy. First thought it went over the bar line, but the toms showed a pattern so then I HAD to write it down.
Jesus. I could never figure out what time signature that song was in.

Dave is playing 8ths on guitar and he plays 9 notes so I elt like a dumbass when I relized that the answer was right in front of me.

carter29 · Unread post by **carter29** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:39 pm

Beauford33, my apoligies...two step's finale is quite difficult, i didnt put much thought in my reply. I guess i wasn't thinking of the rolls he goes into near the very end, similar to Crush's drum solo thing at the end, live. Both are difficult.

I also agree on the Fool To Think...i was amazed with what carter did to it on the Gorge CD, i had never heard it live before that.

How bout pig's grooves, quiet and fast is something carter excels at. Spoon's finale on BTCS....proudest monkey even. Seek up's verses?

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:33 pm

carter29 wrote:Beauford33, my apoligies...two step's finale is quite difficult, i didnt put much thought in my reply. I guess i wasn't thinking of the rolls he goes into near the very end, similar to Crush's drum solo thing at the end, live. Both are difficult.

I also agree on the Fool To Think...i was amazed with what carter did to it on the Gorge CD, i had never heard it live before that.

How bout pig's grooves, quiet and fast is something carter excels at. Spoon's finale on BTCS....proudest monkey even. Seek up's verses?

seek up verses are a simple pattern. Or if Im mistaken, they are the same as any other hi hat thing he does. Simple. Just the bass beat that is felt the entire song with Carters typical broken 16th and triplets with rolls on the hi hat and a Snare hit ever 4th measure.

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:04 pm

Carter loves his snare on the 2 and 4 doesn't he? i don't mean on seek up

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:24 pm

i like tictacs wrote:Carter loves his snare on the 2 and 4 doesn't he? i don't mean on seek up

I think every drummer loves snare on 2 asnd 4. Every 4/4 rock song is written that way dumbass :lol:

Swe dmbfan · Unread post by **Swe dmbfan** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:45 pm

i just have to say on thing:

LET YOU DOWN!

filmdude100cms · Unread post by **filmdude100cms** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:32 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
i-am-me wrote:okay, you're missing the point beau. he can still think. rapunzel and DIDO seem damn near impossible to me, but should my opinion be invalidated because i'm not a drummer?

if someone heard tim reynolds playing a song, stream for example, are they not allowed to say "shit, that sounds hard!" because they don't play guitar?

good point.

bitch slap...

although mikey, he has a point, stream sounds and looks complicated, it really isnt

i am sam2 · Unread post by **i am sam2** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:41 pm

ok, i got a question for beau and you drummers out there...when youre makin up a drum part to a song, do you think like "ok, i want to do off beat tom hits with a syncopated snare pattern and a 2/4 bass drum double roll" etc(i just made up those words i dont know if they mean something related to drumming so dont get mad at me for that)? or do you just like, play what you want it to sound like and then afterward you decide what it is exactly? do some do it some way and others other ways? how does carter do it?

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