Is John Mayer a better guitar player than Dave Matthews?

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Is John Mayer a better guitar player than Dave Matthews?

Unread post by subotai » Mon May 12, 2003 8:59 pm

Discuss ....

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Unread post by Pickles » Mon May 12, 2003 9:09 pm

did it take you this long to notice? dave cant pull neon off.
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Unread post by w0odman » Mon May 12, 2003 9:15 pm

daves got more soul
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Unread post by Pickles » Mon May 12, 2003 9:17 pm

this is true, mayer still has more talent.

edit: let me just make it known, john does have more talent at LEAD, but he lacks what dave has for rhythm. i think daves music is 100x better than john, and that john cant write lyrics (like dave anyway), but if dave were to try to stand up to john, he wouldnt be able to.
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Unread post by QuattroDore » Mon May 12, 2003 9:24 pm

Note the topic subject was "guitar player." Yes he is better, yes JM has more soul than DM on the guitar. Just listen to his solos, which Dave simply can't do. Nothing more soulful than a sustained fullstep bend with vibrato.
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Unread post by w0odman » Mon May 12, 2003 9:27 pm

one bent note with vibrato........ or strumming your heart out every second

which is better?
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Unread post by Pickles » Mon May 12, 2003 9:28 pm

umm.. its a lot more than 1 bent note. just in case you didnt notice soloing is a lot harder than strumming.
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Unread post by w0odman » Mon May 12, 2003 9:33 pm

eh, I won't get into a fight over it. I like both of them. Both are talented. I just prefer Dave. Personally I will never be impressed by another solo after hearing Mr. SRV.

John and Dave are different styles..... Dave can't play like john, and john can't play like dave.
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Unread post by Jay » Mon May 12, 2003 9:34 pm

w0odman wrote:Personally I will never be impressed by another solo after hearing Mr. SRV.

John and Dave are different styles..... Dave can't play like john, and john can't play like dave.
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Unread post by Lying In My Grave » Mon May 12, 2003 10:03 pm

i think dave is more creative.
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Unread post by billywestom » Mon May 12, 2003 10:35 pm

I think in over all guitar playing skill, John has Dave by quite a bit. I haven't heard Dave do a whole lot of improvisation. John has the chord knowledge, fingerpicking technique and percussive effects down perfect. But in melody, soul, feeling, composition, lyrics, overall songs, Dave can't lose.
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Unread post by DustyDave » Mon May 12, 2003 10:36 pm

Jay wrote:
w0odman wrote:Personally I will never be impressed by another solo after hearing Mr. SRV.

John and Dave are different styles..... Dave can't play like john, and john can't play like dave.
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Actually thats wrong ;) download Lover Lay Down performed by John , he put fills in instead of vocals at the same time he holds the rhythm .... :lol:

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Unread post by jsgksu » Mon May 12, 2003 10:41 pm

Ive listened to that and it is fucking amazing, how the hell did he do that. I cant believe he could just make up some lead stuff that goes exactly with the vocals, he is a very talented guy, especially for being only 25.
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Unread post by DustyDave » Mon May 12, 2003 11:14 pm

Yeah people seriously underestimate his talent .... So please don't say that John can't play Dave lol :lol: I think its the other way around , but i wouldn't say that as i haven't heard Dave play any John stuff yet and that would make be talk down on Dave which ain't what im doing right now :)

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Unread post by Lying In My Grave » Tue May 13, 2003 2:10 am

i think if dave wanted to rip, he'd rip. but its not really his style.
i know that john has incredible skill, he does an amazing Lenny, but theyre two different styles. john has to hold himself, while dave has the band.
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