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Learning rhythmn, timing, counting

Unread post by lieinourgraves » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:46 pm

ive been playing for a year now and happy with my progress expect for my rhythm and timming. I just started playing with a meterodome. I was wondering if anyone knew any excrises or sites that will help me learn rhythm, timing and counting thanks
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Unread post by onid41 » Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:42 pm

this is a good site

http://www.imterribleattimingandstrumming.com

haha im playin costa, i usually just tap my foot along when i play, it gives me a nice sense of timing
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Unread post by ledzepp4l » Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:55 pm

it takes time, you can't teach timing and rhythm, just something you have to learn. At least that's how i see it.
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Unread post by mlb1399 » Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:30 pm

Unfortunately for some it means going back to the basics. Playing 1 note per beat and tapping it out and changing it up. I ran into that problem after my first year of playing. I could ad lib playing but I wasn't precise with the rhythym. I bought a couple of Chrisopther Parkening's books which helped me learn to read music and with timing

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Re: Learning rhythmn, timing, counting

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lieinourgraves wrote:ive been playing for a year now and happy with my progress expect for my rhythm and timming. I just started playing with a meterodome. I was wondering if anyone knew any excrises or sites that will help me learn rhythm, timing and counting thanks
Assuming you mean a metronome. :P

Anyway, using a metronome is the best way to learn timing. Use the metronome and play a little "solo" that fits with the timing.

Don't forget to record and playback.. It's really hard to hear the timing as you go.[/b]

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Unread post by lieinourgraves » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:04 pm

onid41 wrote:this is a good site

http://www.imterribleattimingandstrumming.com

haha im playin costa, i usually just tap my foot along when i play, it gives me a nice sense of timing
hahah u should go http://www.ifingeredpattyanditsmelledawholeroomup.com
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Unread post by Beauford33 » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:15 pm

ledzepp4l wrote:it takes time, you can't teach timing and rhythm, just something you have to learn. At least that's how i see it.
Oh god no. You can learn both of these. It may take some time to get rythm, but timing all has to do with counting. If you can count, youll have such a better sence of where things go and when you listen to Dave (or another artist) youll have such a better understanding and you will hear new theriors and understnad music ina whole. I think people who try to play music without a sence of counting are fools if they think they will go places. IMO, a ittle on the jackass side, but somethings just gotta be that way.
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Unread post by something cool » Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:33 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
ledzepp4l wrote:it takes time, you can't teach timing and rhythm, just something you have to learn. At least that's how i see it.
Oh god no. You can learn both of these. It may take some time to get rythm, but timing all has to do with counting. If you can count, youll have such a better sence of where things go and when you listen to Dave (or another artist) youll have such a better understanding and you will hear new theriors and understnad music ina whole. I think people who try to play music without a sence of counting are fools if they think they will go places. IMO, a ittle on the jackass side, but somethings just gotta be that way.
Note: This is not a smartass reply...only debate.
I seem to have natural timing(in the most unbragging tone possible), but I've often wondered about doing the counting/tapping foot thing to maybe open up a new spectrum. I would really have to force myself to do it. I think I'm more of a swayer...kinda like a bridge in the wind. Have you ever been a swayer(anybody)...and if you were...did you improve with the counting instead?

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Unread post by c_tietze » Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:11 am

Lessons teach you the basics and are invaluable.

Listen to all music carefull and practice like a mofo.

Keep that foot tapping too, never lose the beat.

You'll improve over time.
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Unread post by Carl_SWE » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:20 am

c_tietze wrote:Lessons teach you the basics and are invaluable.

Listen to all music carefull and practice like a mofo.

Keep that foot tapping too, never lose the beat.
You'll improve over time.
Also, try tapping your foot at whatever tempo you like.. then start to play something at that tempo.. You'll probably notice that it's hard to play a certain song that matches the tempo, your foot will probably go faster or slower instead.. Work on this.

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Unread post by MWR » Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:53 pm

I was reading about a composer (forgot the name) and he didn't think the beat should always be implicit. His reasoning was rooted in how nature works like how waves hit the shore. He felt time should be more elastic.
I know this theory doesn't translate to pop music at all but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.

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Unread post by HumbleMonkey » Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:49 pm

like the others said keeping tapping your foot or something. when dave was learning to play guitar he remembered to always keep moving, moving to the rythm keeps keeps you playing the right rythm, sounds logical, right?

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Unread post by DMB_FAN » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:05 pm

something cool wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
ledzepp4l wrote:it takes time, you can't teach timing and rhythm, just something you have to learn. At least that's how i see it.
Oh god no. You can learn both of these. It may take some time to get rythm, but timing all has to do with counting. If you can count, youll have such a better sence of where things go and when you listen to Dave (or another artist) youll have such a better understanding and you will hear new theriors and understnad music ina whole. I think people who try to play music without a sence of counting are fools if they think they will go places. IMO, a ittle on the jackass side, but somethings just gotta be that way.
Note: This is not a smartass reply...only debate.
I seem to have natural timing(in the most unbragging tone possible), but I've often wondered about doing the counting/tapping foot thing to maybe open up a new spectrum. I would really have to force myself to do it. I think I'm more of a swayer...kinda like a bridge in the wind. Have you ever been a swayer(anybody)...and if you were...did you improve with the counting instead?
I know what you mean, I hate tapping my foot. I get into it more rocking back and forth. I'm having trouble with rhythm and timing right now too, but still a beginner.

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Unread post by something cool » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:58 pm

MWR wrote:I was reading about a composer (forgot the name) and he didn't think the beat should always be implicit. His reasoning was rooted in how nature works like how waves hit the shore. He felt time should be more elastic.
I know this theory doesn't translate to pop music at all but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.
Definitely interesting. I liked that analogy. :D

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