12 strings

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:22 pm

edit nevermind

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:36 pm

Umm, grock are you sure about that? I've never heard that before...

and heck, even if it is true, who cares what the materials are, as long as the thing sounds good...

madtadder · Unread post by **madtadder** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:42 pm

ticohans wrote:Umm, grock are you sure about that? I've never heard that before...

and heck, even if it is true, who cares what the materials are, as long as the thing sounds good...

exactly, garrison guitars have frickin' fiberglass bracing and they still sound pretty good.

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 7:37 am

http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/mo ... asp?id=355
go down to where it says "binding" and it has listed "black Fiber", which is code for black plastic.

ultimately the decision will be based on what the guitar sounds like. it's just that if i am paying the big bucks for a taylor i would expect to get wood. i actually own an all plastic/synthetic/fiberglass guitar that i keep in my trunk just in case i ever need a guitar on the spot. and it doesn't warp or crack cuz of the winter or summer. and i might add that i sounds quite good. i believe keeping this guitar in my trunk has actually improved it's response and tone. i do love that guitar. so there is a place for plastic guitars. but do you see what i am saying. it just seems like 1200$ should buy more than plastic bracing....arghhh...shoot, i'm just gonna have to try one at the guitar shop...

jsgksu · Unread post by **jsgksu** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 11:42 am

So what part exactly is plastic? Just the little strip that goes around the edge of the guitar. Is that really that big a deal, pardon my ignorance I just dont know what you guys are all talking about and I wanna know cuz they Taylor I want has the same thing.

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:47 pm

are you sure "black fiber" is code for plastic? i want this guitar:
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/mo ... p?id=614ce
and for the binding it says "white plastic," not white fiber....there's gotta be a difference...

also, this guitar is $2200, so i doubt that the plastic binding could be a second class thing. they bind their 800's with plastic too.

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 1:09 pm

ok so i was thinking binding=bracing. but i don't think this is the case anymore. i have done nothing at work today except research taylors and other guitars and while i have read some reviews that mention black plastic bracing on the 355, the taylor website says they always use sitka spruce for their bracings. so that's what i am gonna believe.

either way i guess i still get to go play some more 12ers this weekend.

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 3:41 pm

bracing is whats used to support the pressure the guitar has to take from the tension on the strings. it needs to support 180 lbs if its a 12 string (i think - not sure) - but anyway, binding really doesnt affect the sound. its cosmetic

DMBTaylorPlayer · Unread post by **DMBTaylorPlayer** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:13 pm

Black fiber = wood fiber died black... that easy.
Black PLASTIC = Black PLASTIC.

And trust me, I would NEVER buy a guitar if it didn't sound good. Trust me, the Taylors are, with the exclusion of the Babies and the new 110, completely solid wood guitars. They're wood inside and out. That settles that.

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Thu May 01, 2003 12:07 am

ahh, plastic BINDING, not BRACING. there's a HUGE difference. you really had me scratching my head on that one, grock, because I'd never heard of plastic bracing before. plastic binding means nothing. that's not going to affect the sound of the guitar at all. all taylor's up to and including the 800's use plastic bracing.

grock · Unread post by **grock** » Thu May 01, 2003 11:30 am

ticohans wrote:ahh, plastic BINDING, not BRACING. there's a HUGE difference. you really had me scratching my head on that one, grock, because I'd never heard of plastic bracing before. plastic binding means nothing. that's not going to affect the sound of the guitar at all. all taylor's up to and including the 800's use plastic bracing.

i trust on that last "bracing" that you meant binding.

so yesterday night i went and played a 355 and it was awesome. it is all wood and pretty heavy i might add. it didn't smell like new wood but it sounded like beautiful. i played a 12 string Tak and it sounded good too. but the tak needed a truss rod adjustment (it was way too tight and this caused buzzing all over the neck) and i wasn't about to go doing that in the middle of the store. actually several of the guitars were so tight that the neck was bowing back the wrong way. i let one of the guys know but they didn't seem to concerned. oh well it's not my store. i was there for like 1.5 hours. but it did take a while to tune both 12 strings. shoot those things are fun. every song i played sounded amazingly cool. so now i just gotta get 1000 bucks together..... it'll happen.....just give it time....

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Thu May 01, 2003 12:06 pm

12 strings are addictive

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Thu May 01, 2003 5:02 pm

yeah, i did mean binding when i said bracing that last time :oops:

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