Rapunzel 5/4?

NJPearce22 · Unread post by **NJPearce22** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:05 pm

So...Rapunzel (people say) has a wierd rythem. I don't find this song very hard at all to play. Infact, it was the first DMB song that I learned (got the BTCS tab book when i got my guitar)! I know that the intro parts are in 5/4 and was wondering exactly what this meant? Maybe i'm playing it wrong or something. Maybe I could use a better strumming pattern. Who knows? Anyways, I just thought I'd post and ask why I've heard its a difficult song to play with.

Macht · Unread post by **Macht** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:06 pm

people are more adjusted to 4/4, it seems to be a standard on songs

Beauford33 · Unread post by **Beauford33** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:10 pm

NJPearce22 wrote:So...Rapunzel (people say) has a wierd rythem. I don't find this song very hard at all to play. Infact, it was the first DMB song that I learned (got the BTCS tab book when i got my guitar)! I know that the intro parts are in 5/4 and was wondering exactly what this meant? Maybe i'm playing it wrong or something. Maybe I could use a better strumming pattern. Who knows? Anyways, I just thought I'd post and ask why I've heard its a difficult song to play with.

I always listen to the drums for the guitar timing. Since , fo course, I am a drummer first. I find it that it is 4/4 for the verse and jam, while the chorus is in 12. Yea, its in 5/4 for guitar though. First song ever wrote in five is Dave Bruebecks...Take Five. awsome song.

Macht · Unread post by **Macht** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:11 pm

I love Take Five

tomtom192 · Unread post by **tomtom192** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:53 pm

Take 5 was not the first song in 5/4

It was the first song in 5/4 to ever make mainstream

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:28 am

The key to understanding time signatures lies in the accent. 3/4 and 6/8 sound very similar at slow tempos so you have to listen to the drums and chord changes. I try to stray from 4/4 when I can because it gets tedious otherwise. You can also insert measures of 2/4, 3/4, 5/4 etc. to add variation. I think crash has a measure of 5/4 right after he sings "crash into me" or somewhere around there.

2StepGranny · Unread post by **2StepGranny** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:05 pm

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I have never known how to play by knowing what 4/4 or 5/4 or whatever. I've always learned songs by ear, and by video. Can someone explain how to play the 4/4 or whatever in ways I can understand, just curious to see how it's explained :-P

You_Enjoy_Myself · Unread post by **You_Enjoy_Myself** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:19 pm

4/4 means that there are 4 quarter notes in a measure

5/4 means that there are 5 quarter notes in a measure

That might be wrong, God smite me

mdel21 · Unread post by **mdel21** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:21 pm

how can there 5 quarter notes in one measure, a quarter is a fourth of something.

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:29 pm

it's friggin hard to play ese!

captainp4 · Unread post by **captainp4** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:28 pm

You_Enjoy_Myself wrote:4/4 means that there are 4 quarter notes in a measure

5/4 means that there are 5 quarter notes in a measure

That might be wrong, God smite me

you are correct, even though it doesn't sound right.. it is.

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:33 pm

mdel21 wrote:how can there 5 quarter notes in one measure, a quarter is a fourth of something.

It just means theres another beat and the quarter note gets that beat. Basically count to five instead of four.

Compound and odd time signatures are easier to understand when you break them down into 'simple time'. For example: 7/8 time is easier to keep track of when you count 1-2-3-4-1-2-3 as opposed to 1-2-3-4-5-6-7. You can also hear where the accent is. Listen to pink floyds 'Money' and count along with it both ways.

violenticecream88 · Unread post by **violenticecream88** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:36 pm

i count 7/8 1 2 1 2 1 2 3

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:50 pm

violenticecream88 wrote:i count 7/8 1 2 1 2 1 2 3

Thats even better for the example I gave. It depends on the song of course.

lyrics101 · Unread post by **lyrics101** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:02 pm

You can't say Rapunzel is easy to play and not even know how to count 5/4. If you don't count it, you're not playing it right.

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