**OFFICIAL BOYD RULES THREAD**

olkskoolpik · Unread post by **olkskoolpik** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:18 am

i dont understand the hatred that is always thrown to boyd on these boards. he is a huge dynamic in the band and his solos make their songs 100% better, watch the tripping billies music video and tell me that u dont get chills when dave yells "CHECK 'EM OUT BOYD" and he then goes into the most badass violin solo ever, you can actually see the strings falling off his bow he is playing so hard, and that is just one example, without him and leroi DMB is just another regular, guitar, drum, bass band, give the guy a little credit. Does anyone out there agree with me.

ryopan · Unread post by **ryopan** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:31 am

i agree totally. he is such a part of the dmb sound that w/o him, there wouldnt necessarily be a dmb sound. i always wondered why some folks didnt like him. now, dave and his songs totally hold up w/o the rest of the band but w/o boyd, the rest of the band would be missing something huge. plus he adds some rockstar quality to the band being ripped and wearing some crazy stuff sometimes. i dig boyd.

Pickles · Unread post by **Pickles** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:36 am

i like boyd, but i doubt hes one of the best out there. anyway why is this under dave's guitar discussion?

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:58 am

it's not that people hate him....he is an integral part of the band but they just want to point out that in terms of musical skills...Boyd is not that great. That is all.

But you're right...I don't see the need to rag on him constantly...

lordmelt · Unread post by **lordmelt** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:09 pm

i agree he is am important aspect of the band... however, he does not compare to the others..., i do love a few of his solos, but also find a few unneccesary..., i dont hate boyd, i just like all of the other members more

and yes, why is this in the guitar discussion board?

DropD-MB · Unread post by **DropD-MB** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:42 pm

Without Boyd = No DMB

Boyd + Carter + Leroi + Stefan + Dave = DMB

Without any of these members DMB wouldn't be DMB.

If anyone in the band is lacking talent its definitely not Boyd, but Stefan.

I have been to roughly 30 shows in the past 9 years and have seen Boyd Jam like a MoFo and the crowd just wanted more. But how many times Have I seen Stefan Solo? Once to Watchtower and it was more like an intro. Anyway, they are all great in my opinion But I have no clue why people think Boyd has no talent. I guess its fair to say that nobody has talent on these boards..I mean no one is making up there own guitar riffs....Just emulating what Dave plays. Is that talent? :wink:

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:49 pm

DropD-MB wrote:Without Boyd = No DMB

Boyd + Carter + Leroi + Stefan + Dave = DMB

Without any of these members DMB wouldn't be DMB.

If anyone in the band is lacking talent its definitely not Boyd, but Stefan.

I have been to roughly 30 shows in the past 9 years and have seen Boyd Jam like a MoFo and the crowd just wanted more. But how many times Have I seen Stefan Solo? Once to Watchtower and it was more like an intro. Anyway, they are all great in my opinion But I have no clue why people think Boyd has no talent. I guess its fair to say that nobody has talent on these boards..I mean no one is making up there own guitar riffs....Just emulating what Dave plays. Is that talent?

I didn't say he had NO talent. I'm saying that people have said that in terms of musical skills within the band he is not the greatest. And a lot of people make him out to be. It's because they are startstruck.

And Stefan is an amazing musician. I think he should solo more often because he is.

But still I don't hate boyd I'm just sayin what others have said. It wouldn't be the same without him.

I wonder what the band would be like if they didn't have him though (from the beginning) OR any other one member for that matter? What if it wasn't Leroi....or it wasn't Carter (heaven forbid)....what if Tim joined full-time....how would the band have turned out?...some food for thought...

ryopan · Unread post by **ryopan** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:56 pm

wow, thinking about all that makes my head hurt. to not have the cd's we all have like crash and uttad and btcs. omigosh. almost breaks my heart. it is a very interesting point to ponder though. man, it could have been SOOO different. hopefully nobody quantum leaps back to then and screws it all up (yikes, quantum leap?)

DropD-MB · Unread post by **DropD-MB** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:07 pm

I certainly dont think Stefan is amazing.....Hell no. Not even Close. He is an ok bass player in my opinion. I have always wondered why Stefan never did any solo work or Jam out. The answer is because he can't. I say that because of the other 4 members of the band during any given show have been in the spotlight jamming. How come Stefan doesn't?

It's not like there is enough time during the show (usually 3 hours).
Its not because they hate Stefan so badly they don't want him to be in the spotlight. It only comes down to one thing.....He can't!

Anyway, about the last post imagining if Boyd, wasn't Boyd...blah ...blah..

The obvious thing would be No DMB. Just as I put in my earlier post.

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:17 pm

I think that Stephan and Boyd are both very good...Stephan doesnt do shit really though, and his watchtower intro sounds gross...I am not impressed at all by Stephan's intros or jams...but his bassline are very good...

as for boyd, he would sound extremely good if he were in tune all the time...the licks he plays are amazing...but they are just out of tune man...i was listening to ants marching in 11-9-96 "caash"....boyd just put me in a bad mood...he ruined the intro...it was fuckin out of tune man...thats it.....when he's "in tune" he fuckin rocks the whole house down though....dave matthews is the best and so is carter...they make that band pretty much....boyd is third because he adds so much excitement...man, only if he would just stay in tune...

DropD-MB · Unread post by **DropD-MB** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:21 pm

Finally somebody Agrees that Stephan doesn't do a damn thing. Sometimes you dont even know he's on stage. I guess I neevr noticed Boyd being out of tune...Maybe I should pay more attention!

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:34 pm

DropD-MB wrote:Finally somebody Agrees that Stephan doesn't do a damn thing. Sometimes you dont even know he's on stage. I guess I neevr noticed Boyd being out of tune...Maybe I should pay more attention!

he's actually irritating to me sometimes because hes moving and bobbing his head, but I cant hear a damn thing that he does...he's is really good though, as I have seen a video of him just screwing around when he was in his teens and he was really fuckin good, so...

gregplaysguitar · Unread post by **gregplaysguitar** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:40 pm

DropD-MB wrote:Finally somebody Agrees that Stephan doesn't do a damn thing. Sometimes you dont even know he's on stage. I guess I neevr noticed Boyd being out of tune...Maybe I should pay more attention!

If you saw even one song without Stephan on Stage you would be saying to yourself......what's missing? Stephan and Carter come together and form an incredibly tight rhythm section. DMB wouldn't be the same if stephan wasn't there.....he does much more than just stand on stage not doing shit....as some of you have pointed out. You should be ashamed.

long live DMB,

greg

Brock · Unread post by **Brock** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:01 pm

All right, I'll throw my two cents in (shall you give me a penny for my thoughts?)...

I think Boyd, in terms of talent, has the least in the band. BECAUSE THE REST OF THE BAND KICKS ASS. Am I saying Boyd is bad? No, of course not, he kicks the shit out of anything I could play on a violin... never tried though

... do I think the band would be the same without him? No, probably not, and as others have stated he does add a lot to the band (and at some times detracts a little) - this is true for all of the members.

As per the Stefan issue... um, if you think Stefan has no talent then, I'm sorry, but you're dead wrong. I play bass myself... and I can't come close to what Stefan does daily. The reason Stefan doesn't solo much (yes, i said much, because he has solo'ed quite a bit in the past), imho, is because he feels very intimidated by the rest of the band... he's what, 6,7 years younger than everyone else? I would certainly feel like a baby and be scared of doing much if I was in that situation...

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:04 pm

his watchtower intros suck big time...his two step solo on listener supported is pretty damn good though...

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