singing from your gut

Unread post by **jpittman** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:34 am

Damn nice post, Tico. There's a lot of stuff in there I hadn't a clue about.

Thanks, bro.

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:06 pm

juineaux, i've heard your singing quite a bit, and i wouldn't be worried about damaging your voice. unless you have the wussiest vocal chords EVER, you should be ok. you don't do anything that's overly rough. it's when you start screaming a lot and singing the wrong way to the point of losing your voice that you need to be careful. even then though, there've been several times where i've been playing in public and wailed till i was hoarse. the voice is a very resilient thing, but you do want to take care of it.

i'll tell you one guy who is shredding his voice to bits: scott stapp. i have a friend here at davidson who lived in talahasse, where creed came out of, and he saw them several times before they were even remotely popular. he said that scott's voice was a lot purer and cleaner then, and it's just going downhill right now. if you watch him, whenever he sings you can see every single vein and tendon in his neck. that's not a good thing.

but on the other end of the spectrum you have guys like mick jagger, who's been screaming and wailing for decades, and he's still going strong, so you never know...

nancies21 · Unread post by **nancies21** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:55 pm

i was just messing with him about it being gay, ya'll take everything so seriously, i think jason can agree?

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:20 pm

juineaux wrote:I actually kinda like the sound of my voice by now, but I dont think im singing correctly. So my voice might be gone in a couple of years

if you breathe right, you'll sound even better (assuming you aren't). singing from your gut won't have a negative affect on your voice once you learn to control it. then again i haven't heard you sing, so if that guy says not to worry, then don't...

i like this thread...can't play guitar worth a shit, but i've been singing since i was a wee baby... :wink:

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:22 pm

and hey, gay people are cool. 8)

4mbi3nt · Unread post by **4mbi3nt** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:38 pm

Great info Tico. I heard a few of your tracks about 5 months ago, and when you sang you had kind of this UUU-OOO undertone in a lot of the words, similar to Eddie Veder (if thats how you spell his name) or the dude from Alice n' chains. The latest tracks you posted the other day sounded completely different, as if you had ditched the whole UUU-oooo thing. Don't know if the UUU-OOO think makes sense to ya but i can't really figure out how else to descirbe it.

On another note, this is a little trick i learned from my moms (who once sang professionally). This will keep your voice from cracking and get rid of any raspy sounds. Trust me the results are pretty amazing. YOu need the following:

Lemon juice, fresh or not
Baking Soda
Sugar

In a glass mix:
1tbls baking soda
roughly 2tbls of lemon juice
1 tsp of sugar

gargle and swallow a few times before singing. Once your done try singing ASAP. You stuff should sound like butter.

4mbi3nt · Unread post by **4mbi3nt** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:39 pm

Oh i forgot to say, Tico your voices sounds 10 times better not doing the UUUU-OOO

juineaux · Unread post by **juineaux** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Dont ever, ever eat a couple of triscuits before you sing.
bad idea-

oldman · Unread post by **oldman** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:00 pm

nancies21 wrote:i was just messing with him about it being gay, ya'll take everything so seriously, i think jason can agree?

Yo man I was only messin' with ya. But what i said about the 2 chicks was the truth. My girlfriend almost creamed when she heard "One More Night!" LOL!

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:35 pm

thanks 4mbi. i know what you're talking about with the uuu-ooo thing. when i did those recordings, i'd never had voice lessons. so the voice lessons have helped big time and also as you get older your voice naturally matures. so chalk the improvement up to better technique and time.

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:10 pm

4mbi3nt wrote: Lemon juice, fresh or not
Baking Soda
Sugar

In a glass mix:
1tbls baking soda
roughly 2tbls of lemon juice
1 tsp of sugar

gargle and swallow a few times before singing. Once your done try singing ASAP. You stuff should sound like butter.

i actually did something similar to this once and it turned out i was allergic to Real Lemon. the bastards. so dont use fake lemon juice...

DustyDave · Unread post by **DustyDave** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:31 pm

oldman wrote:Yo man I was only messin' with ya. But what i said about the 2 chicks was the truth. My girlfriend almost creamed when she heard "One More Night!" LOL!

Damn lol , its a great song for sure .... keep them coming Tico

Jay wrote:i actually did something similar to this once and it turned out i was allergic to Real Lemon. the bastards. so dont use fake lemon juice...

I can imagine that wouldn't be fun at all but .... lol made me laugh :lol:

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:57 pm

it was not fun...my throat got all tight and i nearly lost my voice for a few hours....

good times, and yeah, it is kinda funny. i have the worst luck...exhibit B:

FryedBread: well i tried to get tickets
FryedBread: and i had really good seats to night 1...and it was processing my credit card, and then it got an error and lost it
FryedBread: and i thought "oh shit im gonna lose the seats"
FryedBread: so i clicked "buy" again really fast
FryedBread: and ended up with OK seats....
FryedBread: and then i went for night 2, and got lawn, because i spent so much time on the first night
FryedBread: so i check my confirmation email, and i somehow ended up with pavilion AND lawn for night 2, and no night 1
FryedBread: cause i clicked so fast i guess
Someone else: !
FryedBread: so i hurried and ended up on the fucking lawn for night 2
FryedBread: er, night 1
FryedBread: and THEN
Someone else: Hold on
FryedBread: i notice
FryedBread: ok
Someone else: How many tickets do you have?
FryedBread: i'm not done yet :-P

FryedBread: so far, i have 6
Someone else: To?
Someone else: Which nights, what seats, how many?
Someone else: 4 for one show
FryedBread: then i notice that my account is missing an extra $130....the EXACT price of the set of pavilion seats that i got the error on
Someone else: 2 for the other, right?
FryedBread: 4 for night 2, 2 for night 1
Someone else: Ah
FryedBread: and now, i think they also sent me those 2 i got the error on
FryedBread:

Someone else: lol
Someone else: 8 tickets?
Someone else: you're one of those fucking greedy scalpers, aren't you?
FryedBread: lol
FryedBread: i'm so pissed
FryedBread: it was like $400
Someone else: hahahaha
Someone else: i mean...
Someone else: :-\
FryedBread:

FryedBread: yeah
FryedBread: :-\ is right
FryedBread: so anyway
Someone else: you'll be able to sell 'em
Someone else: and at least they are TM
FryedBread: if you or a small church group wants to come to polaris
Someone else: so YOU KNOW WHERE THE FUCK THEY'RE AT
FryedBread: i have the tickets

i live in a farce......

4mbi3nt · Unread post by **4mbi3nt** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:23 pm

Jay wrote:
4mbi3nt wrote: Lemon juice, fresh or not
Baking Soda
Sugar

In a glass mix:
1tbls baking soda
roughly 2tbls of lemon juice
1 tsp of sugar

gargle and swallow a few times before singing. Once your done try singing ASAP. You stuff should sound like butter.
i actually did something similar to this once and it turned out i was allergic to Real Lemon. the bastards. so dont use fake lemon juice...

really you could use any juice you wanted to, it's only to cover the terrible taste of baking soda.

blaze · Unread post by **blaze** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:43 am

Yo man!!!!!!!!

Great advice. maybe some of the best iv ever gottin. Right after I read your tips on the post I tried it out AND...... I wasnt very good at it but I sounded the best iv ever sounded since I hit puberty. Im gonna keep at it and maybe turn my crappy voice into a bareable one. Thanks a million . GREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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