Guitar- Dave Matthews or John Mayer?

Doron Diamond · Unread post by **Doron Diamond** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:01 pm

I've been curious as to what you guys think for a while now. Who is a better guitarist? I know it's two different styles, but who do you think is a better guitarist overall? To me it seems that Dave is the king at his own unique style, but that John Mayer is a better guitarist overall. Some of the stuff Mayer does is incredible. Anyway, I'm honestly curious as to what you guys think. Also, aside from that, how good a guitarist do you think Dave is aside from his own songs? I mean, he's played his own songs 1000s of times each now, so of course he can do it in his sleep (I bet he could deliver the Gettysburg Address while playing the Stone:)) and I'm sure he could hold his own just fine doing other things, but how is Dave relative to other great guitar players in the world? Can't wait to here your opinions.

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:11 pm

sometimes people tend to deviate from what truly matters the most..."great music" and a "great time"...in that case....Dave Matthews is the greatest guitarist of all time...LATE!

DMB=ice · Unread post by **DMB=ice** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:32 pm

Creatively, I think dave is a better guitarists because his unique style is so awesome. Technically, I think John is way better, he also incorporates a lot of jazz elements in his music. Just listen to a live version of neon, its awesome

Doron Diamond · Unread post by **Doron Diamond** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:40 pm

My immediate response is to also say John is way better, but a few things make me think twice. Just watching something like Dave playing the Stone with such perfection, or being able to sing with any of his songs make me think that his guitar playing is so good that everything is second nature. That, and, even if John were better, Dave his about 8 years on him, so maybe he also has 8 years more experience, and thus is better? I don't know...

bugman96 · Unread post by **bugman96** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:04 pm

I think another thing to consider is that Dave isn't a real flashy/show-off guitar player so we might not have a real idea of what he's capable of.

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:13 pm

bugman96 wrote:I think another thing to consider is that Dave isn't a real flashy/show-off guitar player so we might not have a real idea of what he's capable of.

true dat...I mean, has anyone ever heard dave attempt a solo...or does that even make a difference...Dave is better at what he does, than Mayer will ever be at what he does...

If Mayer is better than dave, than tim reynolds is better than dave and mayer, dimebag darrel(pantera) is better than dave and mayer, lead guitarist of metallica is better than dave and mayer, jimi hendrix is better than dave and mayer, even the guy down at guitar center is better than mayer and dave..the list goes on and on...

but hey, do we listen to all those other people like pantera,metallica, etc.
....

no...

we listen to dave matthews...because to us...he is the best.

well, IMO, if you dont think that dave is the best guitarist ever, than you are abberrated...peace!

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:28 pm

Yeah, I have heard Dave do solo stuff. He tries on Listener Supported a little. It's nothing overwhelming, but it's not bad either.

John Mayer is a way better guitarist. The quality of a musician has NOTHING to do with how much they are listened to. The likes of Britney Spears should make that PAINFULLY apparent.

And there is no way in hell that Dave Matthews is the greatest guitarist of all time.

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:35 pm

hey dumbfuck...shut the fuck up with all the "likes of...bla bla bla"

we arent in mid-evil times any more......I said "WE" tico....as in the "people on these boards", listen to dave matthews...not the society...you choir boy...I'll beat the shit out of you choir boy

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:52 pm

what the heck? i responded to this thread, and did so respectfully, without a single mentioning of your person. there was nothing derogatory or inflammatory about my post, and look what you manage to come up with. oh that's right, i forgot, people can't have opinions that are different than yours. sorry, i'll try and remember that you're bigoted like that next time.

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:57 pm

ticohans wrote:what the heck? i responded to this thread, and did so respectfully, without a single mentioning of your person. there was nothing derogatory or inflammatory about my post, and look what you manage to come up with. oh that's right, i forgot, people can't have opinions that are different than yours. sorry, i'll try and remember that you're bigoted like that next time.

wow tico, you look very very innocent...you could have fooled me for a second...way to go...you are getting even better...you should be a spy for the US in the war....late

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:59 pm

hey jason, let me give you a hint. when discussing something with another person, it's best not to use the word "fuck" every other word, and secondly, it's best to actually respond to what is said, as opposed to changing the subject when you know you can't respond because the other person is right.

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:04 pm

keep building your innocence up man...i bet you operate off of the phrase..."keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer"

yea, sure...it was just your objective opinion....had nothing to do with the fact that I posted something in the thread....no....not at all....choir boy!

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:07 pm

Dude, this thread is brand new. It's not like it's been buried and I dug it up to respond to something you said. I've been involved in several conversations about this in other threads, so it should be pretty easy to see that you are not the center of attention here. Sorry Jason.

DmbFanJason · Unread post by **DmbFanJason** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:08 pm

Im not the "center of attention" ....just the "center of your attention"...I'm flattered tico...

ticohans · Unread post by **ticohans** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:12 pm

that's right jason. my world revolves around you.

the only reason i left these boards for a while is that i was so sick of you. i decided to check back in, and look who's up to his old tricks! maybe i do jump to the worst conclusions with you too quickly, but it's only because of the way you've acted in the past, which you have demonstrated beautifully in you last few posts. no reason to believe you've changed when your words show otherwise.

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