Granny Cover - "I'm Comin' Out...Guns Blazin'"

BlueWaters · Unread post by **BlueWaters** » Wed May 26, 2004 2:50 am

I finished this one this morning, well now it's yesterday morning. I did it pretty quickly before work so it's not tried and true, but it still turned out pretty good I think. I had a few breathing problems if you can't tell, but I don't know if it's just me or this weird throat bug I've had recently. My solution was to put the verses and chorii on seperate tracks for breathers (cheap, I know). While I was at it though I messed around with the balance a little, so tell me what you think about that one guys. Anyways, before this turns into a blog or journal thing, here's an up-tempo one for you guys:

Granny

P.S.-This doesn't mean you have to stop commenting on "Bartender" by the way haha. Comments, criticism, anything... it keeps me going... peace

AdamCU81 · Unread post by **AdamCU81** » Wed May 26, 2004 4:08 am

The first thing I noticed is that the treble is way to high on the guitar. The strings sound like they're sharp as razors. Lower the treble and raise bass to mellow it out. The vocals are pretty good. It's easy to notice the track changes. Try to make sure one vocal track is completely silent before the other one cuts in...and do your best to keep the volume and tone equal on both. One more thing...the recording sounds like it's from inside a box. It could be your equipment, or the way you mastered the mix. That's as honest as I can be.

BlueWaters · Unread post by **BlueWaters** » Wed May 26, 2004 12:26 pm

AdamCU81 wrote:The first thing I noticed is that the treble is way to high on the guitar. The strings sound like they're sharp as razors. Lower the treble and raise bass to mellow it out. The vocals are pretty good. It's easy to notice the track changes. Try to make sure one vocal track is completely silent before the other one cuts in...and do your best to keep the volume and tone equal on both. One more thing...the recording sounds like it's from inside a box. It could be your equipment, or the way you mastered the mix. That's as honest as I can be.

Thanks for the honesty, that's what I need. I don't know if you or anyone else has heard an early ass version of Granny where dave is talking about a headcold and shaving his head, anyway, the way he was first playing it was with ubertreble. So that's why I did that, partly that and I was trying to compensate for being unable to find my nylon pick which gives me good sound on my Ibanez. Clearly the off-balance vocals didn't go over too well and the inside-a-box effect is AcousticDuets, a chorus effect I used in CoolEP before, and thought would help a bit. I try to always add a little effect just so it doesn't sound like I'm in my room playing dave songs.

So thank you for all the comments and advice, should this song just be totally rethought and redone then? Any advice on effects to choose with CoolEP? Thanks again... peace

waffle_house_jam · Unread post by **waffle_house_jam** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:20 pm

I thought your voice was very good. You hit all the notes pretty well on. I'm commenting on granny and bartender here. In granny your voice wasn't on as much, but that's understandable. I haven't heard the version of granny you're talking about, but I gotta tell ya, the guitar sounds really odd and kindof painful. Overall I'd say it would be pretty nice if you could fix the guitar.

MWR · Unread post by **MWR** » Wed May 26, 2004 9:24 pm

BlueWaters wrote: Thanks for the honesty, that's what I need. I don't know if you or anyone else has heard an early ass version of Granny where dave is talking about a headcold and shaving his head, anyway, the way he was first playing it was with ubertreble. So that's why I did that, partly that and I was trying to compensate for being unable to find my nylon pick which gives me good sound on my Ibanez. Clearly the off-balance vocals didn't go over too well and the inside-a-box effect is AcousticDuets, a chorus effect I used in CoolEP before, and thought would help a bit. I try to always add a little effect just so it doesn't sound like I'm in my room playing dave songs.

First things first: you gotta have your git in tune. There's just no excuse for making a recording with it out of tune unless it's THAT crappy that it cant be tuned and stay in tune (which may be the case).

The best effect you can use is a bit of reverb on the guitar/vocals. It should be pretty subtle. You also want to add some compression and e.q. I've found that if all your doing is recording guitar and vocals these three things are all you need.

The vocals were good but your holding back. Make sure the recording level is hot but not so hot that a loud passage is going to distort. Once you have that set don't worry about singing to loudly or trying to keep a really consistant volume, just sing. You can apply compression to the track later and it will even it out.

I try and encourage everyone around here to get their recordings as clean as possible. Especially covers cause there's no songwriting to critique.

If your have any questions feel free to PM me.

BlueWaters · Unread post by **BlueWaters** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:11 am

MWR wrote:The vocals were good but your holding back. Make sure the recording level is hot but not so hot that a loud passage is going to distort. Once you have that set don't worry about singing to loudly or trying to keep a really consistant volume, just sing. You can apply compression to the track later and it will even it out.

Hey MWR, I was going to PM you, but then I remembered that Buck also commented that it seems like I'm holding back with my vocals. I'm not sure I totally understand what you guys are telling me... with Seek Up and BartenderI sort of understood because they were quieter and didn't really utilize my potential, but with Granny I felt like I went all out, and actually maybe overstepped my bounds a bit. So this post is for you two and anyone else that might notice this. I think at this point I've decided to go back and do Granny over again... I just threw it up so quick, I should have been more patient, but I would like some feedback on this before I go and do any vocal work. Thanks for the help and support guys... peace

BlueWaters · Unread post by **BlueWaters** » Fri May 28, 2004 3:22 am

Don't know if you guys noticed, I'm at a standstill here...

BlueWaters · Unread post by **BlueWaters** » Mon May 31, 2004 3:44 pm

BlueWaters wrote:Don't know if you guys noticed, I'm at a standstill here...

Still at a standstill... Where is the love???

mdel21 · Unread post by **mdel21** » Mon May 31, 2004 3:48 pm

stop begging for people to reply

BlueWaters · Unread post by **BlueWaters** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:39 am

mdel21 wrote:stop begging for people to reply

Woah, sorry... I just though this board was about critiquing. I wouldn't make an issue, but a couple comments suggested that I'm holding something back. I'm just trying to get better and looking for advice, I mean, that's the reason I started posting. If I'm wrong, let me know...

BlueWaters · Unread post by **BlueWaters** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:37 am

waffle_house_jam wrote:I haven't heard the version of granny you're talking about, but I gotta tell ya, the guitar sounds really odd and kindof painful.

I found that version of Granny, the track says first ever, 11-17-92... still I don't think my guitar sounds like that haha... peace

P.S.-Waiting for your response mdel.....

Raif2032 · Unread post by **Raif2032** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:13 pm

Yes, the board is about critiquing...but just be chill and let people get around to it. Also, comment on other people's music and they'll be more inclined to return the favor.

I thought it was pretty good, I guess you were going for the very whiney kind of guitar, but I didn't care for it too much. Your voice seems a little under-developed but has a lot of potential and the vocals on granny were quite good I thought.

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