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Unread post by blaze » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:06 pm

why do the chords work the same when you capo a fret but they are not the same notes?

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Unread post by Matty Boom » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:16 pm

the chords do not work the same...the chord positions work the same

a G chord position with a capo at the 3rd fret is a G, up three half steps...(G, G#, A, A#)
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Unread post by blaze » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:26 pm

hmmm not sure i follow you. So if you capo the 3rd and play a g is it still a g?

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Unread post by mdel21 » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:28 pm

No it's not a G it's a Bb I believe.

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Unread post by blaze » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:31 pm

so how come you can still cycle though the chords and it sounds the same??????

im confused.

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Unread post by Matty Boom » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:31 pm

no, it's an A#

all those basic chord formations are relative to the nut

a capo changes the nut, essentially

so, EADGBE goes to whatever, depending on where you capo it

thus changing the notes in those chords you're playing, but it's all relative to where you put the capo

do yourself a favor and learn the fretboard
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Unread post by blaze » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:36 pm

ok im getting it now. I get caught up on concepts sometimes. I dont like not knowing why thing are the way they are.

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Unread post by blaze » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:38 pm

so is capo'ing the second fret like dropping the guit a half step?
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Unread post by Matty Boom » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:38 pm

think about a capo being like a barred chord i guess...that's essentially what you're doing

and learn the fretboard
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Unread post by fatjack » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:39 pm

blaze wrote:so is capo'ing the second fret like dropping the guit a half step?
it would be like raising it a whole step
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Unread post by Pickles » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:43 pm

it sounds the same because basically youre playing the same progression in a different key.

for example:

No Capo:

G D Em C
1 5 6 4 progression

Capo on, oh lets say, 2 (a whole step up, making it in the key of A):

A E F#m D
also a 1 5 6 4 progression

however youre still playing the A E F#m D as if it was G D Em C because of the capo.
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Unread post by fatjack » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:45 pm

shane wrote:it sounds the same because basically youre playing the same progression in a different key.

for example:

No Capo:

G D Em C
1 5 6 4 progression

Capo on, oh lets say, 2 (a whole step up, making it in the key of A):

A E F#m D
also a 1 5 6 4 progression

however youre still playing the A E F#m D as if it was G D Em C because of the capo.
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Unread post by blaze » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:47 pm

ok thats cool how that works.
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Unread post by Pickles » Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:04 am

fatjack wrote:i feel so proud right now
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Unread post by gravedigger » Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:43 pm

blaze wrote:so how come you can still cycle though the chords and it sounds the same??????

im confused.
it sounds the same to you playing by yourself because your ear quickly adjusts to the key that its hearing. but you play the same chords with a capo on the second fret along with someone else playing the same chords open without a capo and you'll easily hear the horrible difference.

but that is where the Capo comes in handy. playing in the key of G, you get the best sounding chord shapes so if you have to or want to play in a different key but still won't the sound of those shapes, than you just clamp the capo on the appropriate fret and you're in business. I like using the capo to play in different keys but the key form of G, C and D sometimes. I like those keys the best for playing.
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