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Perfect Pitch?

Unread post by cooldany » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:46 am

do any of you guys now aout that perfect pitch thing they advertise in like guitar world and stuff? i was wondering if its really worth it if any of you have tried it or know anyone who has. any thing on it would be great thanks.

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Re: Perfect Pitch?

Unread post by SimsUK » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:28 am

There is no way to develop perfect pitch. Anything claiming that you can do it is just going to steal your money.

The advantage is that you can instantly tell what note or chord is being played and if it's being played correctly, what inversions, etc. But you're born with the ability. Then when you start to play an instrument, it comes out.

Since you're asking, you were obviously born without it, so work on developing strong relative pitch instead. That's using sounds you know or sounds you can hear to judge where you are and judge the size of intervals, etc.

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Unread post by ut4ever8 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:39 am

SimsUK wrote:There is no way to develop perfect pitch.
Is that proven? I know most of the tools out there that advertise it are bullshit but I thought perfect pitch could be developed. Maybe I am thinking relatively good pitch i dont know.
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Unread post by Coldchillin » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:41 am

Two of my best friends have perfect pitch and it makes me jealous.
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Re: Perfect Pitch?

Unread post by SimsUK » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:51 am

ut4ever8 wrote:
SimsUK wrote:There is no way to develop perfect pitch.
Is that proven? I know most of the tools out there that advertise it are bullshit but I thought perfect pitch could be developed. Maybe I am thinking relatively good pitch i dont know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_p ... ._nurtured
wiki wrote:Researchers have been trying to teach absolute pitch ability for more than a century, and various commercial absolute-pitch training courses have been offered to the public since the early 1900s. It has been shown possible to learn the naming of tones later in life, although some consider this skill not to be true absolute pitch. Although it has been shown possible to learn to identify pitches, keys, and everyday sounds later in life, no training method for adults has yet been shown to produce abilities comparable to naturally occurring absolute pitch.
You might be able to learn what a G note or G major chord sounds like, but that's not real perfect pitch.

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Unread post by ut4ever8 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:10 pm

Interesting. Thanks for that. I just figured since I could learn how to tune a guitar by ear in a fairly short period of time, I would consider that to be learning some kind of pitch. I figured some people could eventually learn perfect pitch. Now I know
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Re: Perfect Pitch?

Unread post by Grachi » Fri May 23, 2008 1:35 pm

well i know I don't have it hahaha. I can only tune my guitar by ear if it's blatantly obvious it's out of tune. i can't say if i could call out what song a key is in just by listening to it, because i wouldn't be able to do it by looking at notes/tabs or whatever either :lol:
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Unread post by Kahn » Fri May 23, 2008 5:31 pm

Has anyone seen that study from some performing arts school where 3% of non-asians had perfect pitch and 90% of Asians had it.

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Re: Perfect Pitch?

Unread post by SimsUK » Fri May 23, 2008 9:48 pm

I strongly doubt that it's as high as 90%, but I have read about a study that those whose native language is an Asian language and who are trained in music are much more likely to have perfect pitch. It's theorized such is true because of the incredibly subtle pitch variations present in the respective phonologies of those languages. I want to say I remember native Korean speakers to be particularly skilled, but I'm not sure on that.

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Unread post by Kahn » Sat May 24, 2008 11:30 am

SimsUK wrote:I strongly doubt that it's as high as 90%, but I have read about a study that those whose native language is an Asian language and who are trained in music are much more likely to have perfect pitch. It's theorized such is true because of the incredibly subtle pitch variations present in the respective phonologies of those languages. I want to say I remember native Korean speakers to be particularly skilled, but I'm not sure on that.
At this particular school were the study was done it was over 90% I remember

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Re: Perfect Pitch?

Unread post by MattyTrane » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:10 pm

thats really interesting. Work on your ear, even without perfect pitch you can do some really amazing things with enough practice. My teacher can have me play any chord (as extended as I want) and he will figure it out immediately (including the inversion), without perfect pitch, its incredible.

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Unread post by ut4ever8 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:39 pm

My mom used to be a home nurse for a kid that has Autism and I guess he was considered a musical genius or something along those lines. She would sit and watch Disney movies with him and every time a song came on he would be able to play it back note for note. He doesn't speak so if you play a G chord, he can't tell you its a G chord, but he can play it back. What's even cooler is that you could smash down a handful of random notes that don't fit together at all and he could hear every single note and play them all back. She hasn't worked with him in years but at the time he wouldn't touch a keyboard or Piano if anyone other than my mom or his parents were in the room. He really is an amazing kid
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Re: Perfect Pitch?

Unread post by MattyTrane » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:14 pm

Do we have an KRISPS, kim!

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Re: Perfect Pitch?

Unread post by Grachi » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:52 am

ut4ever8 wrote:My mom used to be a home nurse for a kid that has Autism and I guess he was considered a musical genius or something along those lines. She would sit and watch Disney movies with him and every time a song came on he would be able to play it back note for note. He doesn't speak so if you play a G chord, he can't tell you its a G chord, but he can play it back. What's even cooler is that you could smash down a handful of random notes that don't fit together at all and he could hear every single note and play them all back. She hasn't worked with him in years but at the time he wouldn't touch a keyboard or Piano if anyone other than my mom or his parents were in the room. He really is an amazing kid
YOUR MOM MUST HAVE TEH MEEGECK TEEECHHIN ^_^

but seriously though that is really cool.

I remember seeing a thing on 60 minutes about little kids like that. they could do that and then they would go play some crazy amazingly hard piece on piano.
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