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I think the guitar has already seen it's glory days...

Unread post by VoodooChile » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:59 am

I was thinking today, after hearing a DJ on a local Atlanta rock station comment that these new bands (he used The Strokes and The White Stripes as examples) that are so hailed as being "ground breaking" and "revolutionary" are really doing nothing more than copying the great bands of yester year (he used the Who and Zepplin). I don't completely agree as there are indeed alot of great artist doing amazing things, however no mainstream band has come along since 2000 IMHO that has done anything terribly inovative. More specifically to my topic, I don't thing there will be many great famous guitarist for here on. The guitar is a fairly recent thing to come along, a tad over 100 years, the electric guitar even newer. I really do think the majority of new players will not be acknowledged as "Gods" ever again. No matter how good a blues player you may ever get, to most people, you are just copying SRV, Muddy Water, BB King, Robert Johnston, ect. Hard rock your copying Satch, EVH, Paige... Even Justin King can be said to be nothing more than a Michael Hedges rip off. And very few new "great" guitarist have acheaved any major fame. I'm not knocking on any one at all, it just is an idle interpretaion. Thoughts?
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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:38 am

disagree, just because you cant imagine someone doing new things with a guitar, doesnt mean there isnt an artist out there, who can be innovative and will be
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Unread post by jcarley » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:40 am

Strongly disagree! However i do agree with newer bands not being all that great but it will just take time for another guitar god to bust through the resraints of musical theory and think outside the box and come up with some ground breaking stuff.. lol hopefully me!
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Unread post by StarSlight » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:02 am

try actually listening to michael hedges, because justin king sounds nothing like him.
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Unread post by jkanter » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:30 pm

Keller Williams...nuff said

But all great music should be inspiration for others. There are only a few Hendrix's, SRV, David Gilmour's out there. Most people will copy...
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Unread post by fede » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:50 pm

jkanter wrote:Keller Williams...nuff said

But all great music should be inspiration for others. There are only a few Hendrix's, SRV, David Gilmour's out there. Most people will copy...
Agreed. I find it a bit frustrating, but well, there's this frase that says that everything has already been done.

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Unread post by Kahn » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:11 pm

jkanter wrote:Keller Williams...nuff said
He is my gutar God
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Unread post by czech » Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:37 pm

less we forget Tommy Morelo??? I know he isn't on an acoustic, but the man deserves credit.
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Unread post by paulaitchison » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:39 pm

music goes in circles.,,,, things come and go.

the piano has been around for hundreds of years, there is still new stuff coming out.........
i just think comercial guitar music is a bit to "power chorded" for now.
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Unread post by Wife Soup » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:50 pm

czech wrote:less we forget Tommy Morelo??? I know he isn't on an acoustic, but the man deserves credit.
What about when he becomes the Nightwatchman????

Morello is awesome because he is so skilled and unique. Plus RATM was great.
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Unread post by mangold » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:12 pm

there are people in every generation that are revolutionary. you wont realize they were until later on.
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Unread post by EazyE » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:16 pm

I saw Tom Morello at the dog park twice. He brought a whole bunch of dogs. Five, I think. Didn't bring his guitar though...
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Unread post by i am sam2 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:56 pm

i disagree...but am having a hard time explaining why. basically, if you knew there was a next thing, either youd be doing it or it wouldnt be "next" it would be "now". its like...from what i udnerstand, youre kind of saying that everyone next is gonna be considered, in some way or another, a copy of someone already great in a certain genre. but really, there are more styles that people can use, more techniques, some that have probably not seen the light of day. who knows.
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Unread post by fede » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:46 pm

i am sam2 wrote:i disagree...but am having a hard time explaining why. basically, if you knew there was a next thing, either youd be doing it or it wouldnt be "next" it would be "now". its like...from what i udnerstand, youre kind of saying that everyone next is gonna be considered, in some way or another, a copy of someone already great in a certain genre. but really, there are more styles that people can use, more techniques, some that have probably not seen the light of day. who knows.
yeah, I point I wanted to put through but didn't feel like it at the moment.

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Unread post by mrjones » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:14 pm

well every time you think someone is copying buddy guy, he was just copying bb king, who was copying robert johnson and he was copying something else
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