Play the Guitar like a Genius.....

[MOE.PHISH]

two memorable quotes from the scam website:

"...A picture so priceless, old Leonardo Da'Vinci would have bid on it at auction. "

and

...my seven year old son mastered it in only 45 minutes! And the amazing thing is he doesn't even play the guitar!

haha what a joke.

jajjajajaja!!!!!!!! Excelent stuff, if you want to laugh a good bit

The problem in english (talking bout guitar theory) is that nots do not have names. In spanish they do, which makes it easier i guess.

The progression A-B-C-D-E-F-G is unchangeable. (to that add the "sharps" and you're through).

in spanish would be: La-Si-Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol [La-see-Doh-Reh-Me-Fah-Sohl <------ that's supposed to be pronunciation....]

Greets,

Fede

never really thought about that. kinda cool.

[brian_ok]

fedelm...that's just solfege right?

[fede]

fedelm...that's just solfege right?

Well, if i´m not mistaken, what you would call solfege in english would be "solfeo" in spanish. Solfeo is the learning of pentagram (not tablature, the clasic style for writing music with the five lines and all).

I wouldn't really know what the ABCDEFG progression is called TECNICALLY (sp??), but I know it is true.



Another important thing when playing a guitar and trying to decypher chords and stuff (so you can know wtf you are playing), is to pay close attention to the BASS notes.

What is a bass note?? the top 3 strings of the guitar (the lowest in pitch, that is). are considered the BASS strings, they stress the chord or progression that is about to follow.

example:

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E:-2-----
B:-3-----
G:-2-----
D:-0-----
A:--------
E:--------

That is a D (Re) chord, notice how the string that is not pressed (the D string that is) "gives the name to the chord" that is no coincidence.

Check this other one:

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E:-0--
B:-1--
G:-0--
D:-2--
A:-3--
E:----

That is a C chord, if you pay attention, the A string (one of the Bass strings) is pressed on the 3rd position (don't know tecnical word in english, spanish for it is "traste") the 3rd position of A (following the sequence) would be:

-0--1--2--3
-A--A#--B--C

So C (Doh in spanish) is setting the bass for the chord to follow.

Let's go to the Dave stuff now:

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E:------
B:------
G:---6--
D:---x--
A:---4--
E:---5--

That is a DAVE CHORD for an A in the fifth position, the actual (common, normal, whatever) is:

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E:---5--
B:---5--
G:---6--
D:---7--
A:---7--
E:---5--

however, let's go back to the dave chord, you see that the BASS note is pressed on the sixth string, fifth fret??? Well, we do the music math:

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--0--1--2---3---4--5
--E--F--F#--G--G#--A

Well, again, it is no coincidence. The bass stablishes what chord is going to be heard (so to speak).

A more complex situation is this particular chord:

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E:-------
B:---3--
G:---x--
D:---4--
A:---2--
E:---3--

Even though it's formation may appear to be awkward, this a (very strange by the way) variation of a G chord, check the bass is on the G note of the low E string.

So, if you're trying to form a chord, don't forget that the BASS note is the MOST IMPORTANTE ONES.

I think I've made my point clear.

Thanks for reading, mates.

From Brazil, greets.

Fede

[Twostep13]

good stuff man, i actually learned a lot from that post, im basicly a hobby guitarist that just goes by tabs, but wants to start getting into the techniqical side of guitar, and that made a lot of sense... would that bass note of the chord be called the root note? is is that a different thing?

[Mathis]

great stuff man!! thanks!!

[Mathis]

i copied the fretboard posted on this thread on page 2, helped me a lot to figure each notes on the board.
Now i'm asking my self, how do i "create" a chord. Let's take the D chord for example ... it's made of a F#, a D and a A (starting from e string) and of course the D string.
what i'm trying to figure out is, why does it sound clean and why if you get mixed up and play a A# on the G string, instead of the D on the B string, why does it sound so ... well ... not nice

i don't know if that's clear or not ... i did my best!

[fede]

good stuff man, i actually learned a lot from that post, im basicly a hobby guitarist that just goes by tabs, but wants to start getting into the techniqical side of guitar, and that made a lot of sense... would that bass note of the chord be called the root note? is is that a different thing?

I wouldn't know for certain, but it makes a lot of sense if it were that way!!!

i copied the fretboard posted on this thread on page 2, helped me a lot to figure each notes on the board.
Now i'm asking my self, how do i "create" a chord. Let's take the D chord for example ... it's made of a F#, a D and a A (starting from e string) and of course the D string.
what i'm trying to figure out is, why does it sound clean and why if you get mixed up and play a A# on the G string, instead of the D on the B string, why does it sound so ... well ... not nice

i don't know if that's clear or not ... i did my best!

Well, the way I see it, it may come as the musical ear each one has[along with cultural aspects...and so on and so forth], take for example that weird G chord dave uses in Say Goodbye, if you try and use it for a G substitute in almost any song it will surely be an awful decision to make (trust me, has happened). However, when playing say goodbye, it fits the context; similar happens with this type of "chords":

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E:------- 
B:------- 
G:-2----- 
D:-X----- 
A:-X----- 
E:-2-----

It has only 2 pressed strings and is almost a mute, but it fits the context(s) given [too much, trippin, etc].

Although we all must admit dave's style isn't exactly orthodox.

To your other question, about HOW to construct a chord, you might just start from the Bass, and work your way into finding a pattern [or perhaps not, because that may be a special case in the guitar] which you can later analyse and establish. [take for example how dave does the minor and the major chords{two step: finest example}, it is always the same the pattern, it doesn't change].

I'm just trying to help, and i apreciate a lot what you've said!!!!! thanks!!!!

From Brazil, greets.

Fede

[brian_ok]

good stuff man, i actually learned a lot from that post, im basicly a hobby guitarist that just goes by tabs, but wants to start getting into the techniqical side of guitar, and that made a lot of sense... would that bass note of the chord be called the root note? is is that a different thing?

The bass note is *usually* the root of the chord. Usually. Sometimes, you'll see a chord name that looks something like this: D/F#. That is read as "D with an F# in the bass", and is called a slash chord (not to be confused with D over F#, which is something that piano players have to worried about.

In this case, D/F#, the chord is D, but the bass note of the chord is F#...obviously not the root of the chord.


------
-3----(D)
-2----(A)
-x----
-x----
-2----(F#)

that's the chord D/F# by the way...I know I've seen it in a few DMB songs. And, while in this example the F# does usually appear in the D major chord, the bass note of a slash chord doesn't necessarily have to be an element of whatever chord it appears in. (for example, you could have C/G#, but that wouldn't really sound too pleasant.)


Anyways, that's kind of a long-winded explanation, but I was just trying to answere your question...no, the bass note is not necessarily the root of the chord.

(note: If you're playing with a bassist, you will probably not have to worry about slash chords.)