Different way to do a part of granny

[guitardmb]

I know.....i was wondering which way dave did it just for reference but I know now. Its like Grey Street style.

[gcom007]

Dave is incredibly inefficient. That's what he does best if that makes sense.

[guitardmb]

Dave is incredibly inefficient. That's what he does best if that makes sense.

Actually not. He normally does things a way that may be a bit harder but always works out better in the long run. Such as grey street, his way takes a while to figure out but you dont have to move around as much when you get it. Or when the world ends i think he uses his pinky which makes it easier to switch when he does the chord on the twelve. And in Granny when he does the chorus grey street style, same difference. There might be easier ways but daves ways are definately most of the time more efficient.

[gcom007]

Dave is incredibly inefficient. That's what he does best if that makes sense.

Actually not. He normally does things a way that may be a bit harder but always works out better in the long run. Such as grey street, his way takes a while to figure out but you dont have to move around as much when you get it. Or when the world ends i think he uses his pinky which makes it easier to switch when he does the chord on the twelve. And in Granny when he does the chorus grey street style, same difference. There might be easier ways but daves ways are definately most of the time more efficient.

that's really not true at all, no offense, but Dave writes, or atleast he used to in the mindset of not using a lot of open strings which causes him to have to play a bunch of weird chords...some of the stretches he does are just absurd...any trained guitarist will tell you there's really no need for them at all. Dave has gotten better about this through the years though and has kinda just let the music happen instead of crazy guitar chords. It works for Dave though and you really shouldn't take it as an insult. BTW, how can you say there are easier ways but Dave's are more efficient? Isn't that contradictory?

ef·fi·cient Audio pronunciation of "efficient" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-fshnt)
adj.

1. Acting directly to produce an effect: an efficient cause. See Synonyms at effective.
2.
1. Acting or producing effectively with a minimum of waste, expense, or unnecessary effort.
2. Exhibiting a high ratio of output to input.

[guitardmb]

Just because daves ways may be more difficult they make for easier chord changes and less overall movement. So by the bold definition of efficient dave is being efficient.

[gcom007]

Just because daves ways may be more difficult they make for easier chord changes and less overall movement. So by the bold definition of efficient dave is being efficient.

that's really not true in most cases...

[guitardmb]

Just because daves ways may be more difficult they make for easier chord changes and less overall movement. So by the bold definition of efficient dave is being efficient.

that's really not true in most cases...

Yes it is. Looke at When the World Ends or the chorus to Grey Street, Two Step. Its obvious his way of doing it makes it easier to do things later in the song.

And how arrogant of you to say a way that an artist does something is wrong or redundant. He is obviously a better musician than you if he has a record deal and you dont.

[Teego Time]

Ever think that maybe Dave wasn't trying to be efficient? Ever stop to think that maybe he does it that way because it's more fun for him to play?

I know that when I master a song, after a while it becomes borring, and I'll change it up. Perhaps that's just Daves' way of doing it?

[jellyfish]

Or perhaps that's all he knew how to do at the time of writing those songs. Who cares?

[gcom007]

Just because daves ways may be more difficult they make for easier chord changes and less overall movement. So by the bold definition of efficient dave is being efficient.

that's really not true in most cases...

Yes it is. Looke at When the World Ends or the chorus to Grey Street, Two Step. Its obvious his way of doing it makes it easier to do things later in the song.

And how arrogant of you to say a way that an artist does something is wrong or redundant. He is obviously a better musician than you if he has a record deal and you dont.

I very much consider myself a better guitarist than Dave Matthews. No exaggeration whatsoever.

[jellyfish]

You have to post a song to prove it......

[gcom007]

You have to post a song to prove it......

when I find my cord that connects my board I intend to record some crap...

[guitardmb]

Just because daves ways may be more difficult they make for easier chord changes and less overall movement. So by the bold definition of efficient dave is being efficient.

that's really not true in most cases...

Yes it is. Looke at When the World Ends or the chorus to Grey Street, Two Step. Its obvious his way of doing it makes it easier to do things later in the song.

And how arrogant of you to say a way that an artist does something is wrong or redundant. He is obviously a better musician than you if he has a record deal and you dont.

I very much consider myself a better guitarist than Dave Matthews. No exaggeration whatsoever.

I agree Dave isnt the best guitarist is the world, but he isnt bad either.

I think its kind of very arrogant and stupid to come to a Dave board and talk about how stupid Daves way of playing is, whether you are better than him or not.

And when I say musician, that means more than just guitar playing. It has to do with lyrics and the manner of playing. People must obviously like his way better than yours.

[gcom007]

Just because daves ways may be more difficult they make for easier chord changes and less overall movement. So by the bold definition of efficient dave is being efficient.

that's really not true in most cases...

Yes it is. Looke at When the World Ends or the chorus to Grey Street, Two Step. Its obvious his way of doing it makes it easier to do things later in the song.

And how arrogant of you to say a way that an artist does something is wrong or redundant. He is obviously a better musician than you if he has a record deal and you dont.

I very much consider myself a better guitarist than Dave Matthews. No exaggeration whatsoever.

I agree Dave isnt the best guitarist is the world, but he isnt bad either.

I think its kind of very arrogant and stupid to come to a Dave board and talk about how stupid Daves way of playing is, whether you are better than him or not.

And when I say musician, that means more than just guitar playing. It has to do with lyrics and the manner of playing. People must obviously like his way better than yours.

or they just haven't heard my way yet...ha...and no, I don't consider it arrogant...I didn't say he's bad, but he does a lot of stupid, unnecessary crap too...I wouldn't be here if I didn't have some semblance of respect for him but that doesn't mean I'm not going to critique the stuff I don't like...

[dmbguitar718]

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