Agree / Disagree with Dave's War Statement???

[Brock]

talk about bringing up an old thread.

damn homey!

[QuattroDore]

I don't agree with him, but 1) I rarely agree with him on political issues and 2) his opinion doesn't mean jack to me. He's a musician, which gives him credibility of, oh, 0 on non-musical issues with me.

couldnt have said it better j. I f i were to talk to someone on the war, id talk to a politician.

That's a cop out excuse. "He's not a politician, therefore his opinion matters not," is poor logic. There are thousands and thousands of politicians in the world who were adamantly opposed to the war and share ideology with DM.

[tjmac66pc]

credibility?? apparently the only valid opinion in terms of taking/not taking action is the government.... construction workers, politicians, athletes, musicians, wombats' opinions do not matter and certainly doesn't matter if they're credible or not... unfortunately the government will do whatever it wants, regardless of what anyone else thinks...

[NoNotThat]

I don't agree with him, but 1) I rarely agree with him on political issues and 2) his opinion doesn't mean jack to me. He's a musician, which gives him credibility of, oh, 0 on non-musical issues with me.

couldnt have said it better j. I f i were to talk to someone on the war, id talk to a politician.

That's a cop out excuse. "He's not a politician, therefore his opinion matters not," is poor logic. There are thousands and thousands of politicians in the world who were adamantly opposed to the war and share ideology with DM.

He's not a politician like gary coleman is.

[QuattroDore]

I don't agree with him, but 1) I rarely agree with him on political issues and 2) his opinion doesn't mean jack to me. He's a musician, which gives him credibility of, oh, 0 on non-musical issues with me.

couldnt have said it better j. I f i were to talk to someone on the war, id talk to a politician.

That's a cop out excuse. "He's not a politician, therefore his opinion matters not," is poor logic. There are thousands and thousands of politicians in the world who were adamantly opposed to the war and share ideology with DM.

He's not a politician like gary coleman is.

Good point.
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[Easy E]

You guys got gotta look at this from both sides though. Im not gonna listen to Dick Cheney on how to write a great love song or make a great movie, so why should I listen to a musician or actor on whether we should go to war. They just take that opportunity in the spotlight to make their opinion known so they seem informed and feel like they are contributing something. I'm sure there were some weak-willed people out there who decided, "Hey I'm anti-war because dave is anti-war, because I couldnt make a decision for myself." I'm not saying I agree or disagree with Dave on this one, but I just don't care what his opinion is on such a topic. Opinions are like assholes, everyone’s got one.

I just can’t understand why artists and actors feel so compelled to state their opinions on everything, mostly unprovoked. They sit back in their mansions and wax on about how things should be. “Hey Im rich, what I think must be right because I’m so successful, let me tell the world!” But they don’t get paid to fucking think! It’s all bullshit, we dont know what kind of information is going through our government right now, and we really have no idea what’s going on over in Iraq. We are still finding out stuff about Vietnam that nobody knew about outside of the government, 30 odd years later. I’m willing to listen to politicians because they are in the business of knowing exactly what’s going on, all the intelligence and information goes right to them.

[isaac]

hah. yeah. but then is everyone saying that the only good people with good ideas are those with the title of "politician?" hell, most all of the politicians in my book aren't that great, and there are quite a few people that aren't politicians that have great viewpoints and can back it up with great logic. Daniel Quinn, the author of Ishmael is an author, but if you've read the book you'd know that he has great idea(l)s in there and has the logic to back it up. politicians are doing things for themselves and their nation, not for anyone else's benefit. yeah, that's a generalization, but that's how i see it. but then again, i'm probably wrong. i'm not a politician.

[Beauford33]

I don't agree with him, but 1) I rarely agree with him on political issues and 2) his opinion doesn't mean jack to me. He's a musician, which gives him credibility of, oh, 0 on non-musical issues with me.

couldnt have said it better j. I f i were to talk to someone on the war, id talk to a politician.

That's a cop out excuse. "He's not a politician, therefore his opinion matters not," is poor logic. There are thousands and thousands of politicians in the world who were adamantly opposed to the war and share ideology with DM.

Hey, remember there are two sides to every point. Dave is just looking at it on the left side(liberal). To completley understand the war, you need to look at it at the right side too(republican). Sincerley I completley disagree with dave. Saddam Huesain is a weapon of mass destruction himself and he alone should be put to justice. Dont take me as a war junkie or anything but, people die in wars and there is no other way around it. Besides, dave is just as imformed as we are. For all we know he just watches CNN every night and then just says the exact same thing but puts it his own words. The government can decide what they want us to hear aboiut their info. and they obviously aint telling us much.
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[Granny33]

damn... you guys sure wrote some real long responses. anyway i was all for the war this is america and we need to protect the innocent and spread the greatness of this country. i do respect dave's opinion but again, he's a musician and thats why we love him.

[isaac]

meh. the greatness of this country?

i won't get any furthur. it's going to turn to flames, i know, and i'm too full to have a barbecue. just tired of hearing proganda everyday. seems that a lot of people overlook some mistakes america's made. whoo. toss some more money and we'll be okay. i cringe at that public service announcement with the before and after of the neighborhood with american flags. it should have been that way before, even if i don't like the nation for a few reasons, there are great opportunities for artistic expression here.

[fatjack]

damn... you guys sure wrote some real long responses. anyway i was all for the war this is america and we need to protect the innocent and spread the greatness of this country. i do respect dave's opinion but again, he's a musician and thats why we love him.

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[transamten94]

Honestly, none of us know what the whole story is. We can only rely on the media. When it comes to certain things like war, our patriotism takes over and we say, "Oh, that must be the way it is." but when it is about other isssues we say, "Do you believe everything that you see on TV?" I really can't give an educated opinion b/c I really believe that none of us everday civilians know what is really going on. Our governement is known to keep secrets and this may be rightfully so for security reasons. My point here is that the media adds there own morals and feelings to the stories they put out. These people in Iraq probably feel the same way about our culture as we do about their's.

As for dave's comments on the war. How can he say anything other than I hope that it is resolved as soon as possible and that it breaks his heart to see so many people suffer. I can't blame him from being emotional on this topic b/c of his strong anti-violence beliefs that come with being a Quaker.

I hope all is the way you want it to be (dave),
rob

[isaac]

not professional, but some food for thought.

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[fatjack]

not professional, but some food for thought.

http://www.vcsc.k12.in.us/lincoln/journ ... igbro.html

interesting... kinda like Metal Gear Solid 2...

[isaac]

yep. but uh, it makes a little more sense, and is a little more scarier.