I'm not trying to pick a fight....

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:41 am

jellyfish wrote:
Appfro wrote:yea you got a point. cause if they aren't happy then we have no chance of being happy for them. i understand that. i'm sorry your shows sucked. mine was amazing. i hope you get the same experience i did at your next one cause some of those songs from stand up man, they really are kick ass stand on your seat songs live.

I did however have a great time at Va Beach. They played about 6 SU songs and really enjoyed them. So at least I saw one good show this year.

awesome. i'm glad to hear, cause i'd hate to think you were getting shafted on those songs. i listen to the live in charlotte i got all the time. out of my hands, hunger, louisiana bayou. just freaking amazing live.

jellyfish · Unread post by **jellyfish** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:57 am

Appfro wrote:
jellyfish wrote:
Appfro wrote:yea you got a point. cause if they aren't happy then we have no chance of being happy for them. i understand that. i'm sorry your shows sucked. mine was amazing. i hope you get the same experience i did at your next one cause some of those songs from stand up man, they really are kick ass stand on your seat songs live.

I did however have a great time at Va Beach. They played about 6 SU songs and really enjoyed them. So at least I saw one good show this year.
awesome. i'm glad to hear, cause i'd hate to think you were getting shafted on those songs. i listen to the live in charlotte i got all the time. out of my hands, hunger, louisiana bayou. just freaking amazing live.

I was impressed by Stolen Away. It was amazing live.

Unread post by **jkanter** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:00 pm

jellyfish wrote:
Appfro wrote:
jellyfish wrote:
Appfro wrote:yea you got a point. cause if they aren't happy then we have no chance of being happy for them. i understand that. i'm sorry your shows sucked. mine was amazing. i hope you get the same experience i did at your next one cause some of those songs from stand up man, they really are kick ass stand on your seat songs live.

I did however have a great time at Va Beach. They played about 6 SU songs and really enjoyed them. So at least I saw one good show this year.
awesome. i'm glad to hear, cause i'd hate to think you were getting shafted on those songs. i listen to the live in charlotte i got all the time. out of my hands, hunger, louisiana bayou. just freaking amazing live.
I was impressed by Stolen Away. It was amazing live.

Agreed....and the one song that I only saw half of because my damn friends wanted to go to the bathroom. AWESOME live

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:03 pm

they didn't play it at my show

i like tictacs · Unread post by **i like tictacs** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:04 pm

Appfro wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:and the best show i ever SEEN WIF MY OWN TWO EYEZ was this summer, with the stand up songs in the set.

since when is the studio stuff as good as live? sans four songs on one album, DMB is a touring band, NOT a studio band. does anyone honestly leave a studio album in their car for lengthy periods of time? i doubt it.
i listen to before these crowded streets more than any other album or concert i have. that's the only one though. then it probably goes live in boone 3-29-03, live in central park, live in chicago, live in charlotte 6-28-05. (boone and charlotte are copies i got from shows i went to)

exactly. all you people want is another masterpiece, and you're just setting yourself up for a let down.

a1075dd63aa12 · Unread post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:14 pm

if i like it i will listen to it, and go out to the shows when they are flooding it with new songs. if i dont like it i wont do either. its not like dmb is the only band out there. if im not happy with their shit i listen to other stuff and attend other concerts. i really dont listen to them all that much anymore anyway. its been a long ass time since they released a new album that ive thoroughly enjoyed. i still love their live stuff as long as it isnt 8-9 stand up songs.

i am sam2 · Unread post by **i am sam2** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:26 pm

Appfro wrote:
i am sam2 wrote:yeah mike is right about the jam band stuff....but i would like to hear them just make something up on the spot and really jam it, not just solo over dave.
but the issue isn't what you would like for them to do or what you'd rather them to do. it's rather or not they should be considered a jam band. what you and mike are basically saying is because you would rather them change their songs up...their jams at the end of the song, because you'd rather them go different directions each time, that dmb cannot be considered a jam band? well, IF they aren't considered a jam band i'm gonna need a better argument than that.

no no, i meant by my "but i would like...." to be just something i want to see them do. it isnt my reasoning for them not being a jam band. in comparison to a lot of music out there, they are, yeah, but comparing them to THE jam band(the grateful dead), they arent.

(not to go back to the jam band part of the thread or anything)

Appfro · Unread post by **Appfro** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:01 pm

i like tictacs wrote:
Appfro wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:and the best show i ever SEEN WIF MY OWN TWO EYEZ was this summer, with the stand up songs in the set.

since when is the studio stuff as good as live? sans four songs on one album, DMB is a touring band, NOT a studio band. does anyone honestly leave a studio album in their car for lengthy periods of time? i doubt it.
i listen to before these crowded streets more than any other album or concert i have. that's the only one though. then it probably goes live in boone 3-29-03, live in central park, live in chicago, live in charlotte 6-28-05. (boone and charlotte are copies i got from shows i went to)
exactly. all you people want is another masterpiece, and you're just setting yourself up for a let down.

you're def right. i am going to be let down again, but if i just settle for mediocre and say that stand up is the best dmb can do right now then i really have no reason to listen to them at all. so i'll keep hoping, and after the next album i'll keep hoping, and so on and so forth. and hopefully one day i won't be let down.

and i'm not dismissing batson already either. i'm going to listen to the new album w/ a new ear and hope that it's good. and if i'm let down, then hey guess what...i'm let down. but like i said before, if i give up hope then i might as well not listen to anything they coem out w/ in the future cause i'm not happy w/ what they're doing.

GSR · Unread post by **GSR** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:22 pm

I don't give a shit what the Official Definition of a Jam Band is.

In my opinion, a jam band is a band that is concerned with music for music. Not with how many times their video is shown on mtv, not what they're wearing, none of that image crap.

Also, if a band extends a song instrumentally in any way, live or otherwise, i consider that jamming. What do you call the last 2 minutes of Crush on btcs? That's playing instruments with other people because it's a blast to do and because you love it. That's jamming.

stepintothelight · Unread post by **stepintothelight** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:17 pm

i like tictacs wrote:those 21 minute songs NEVER CHANGE. for the most part, a two step is a two step is a two step unless there is a guest. a jimi thing is a jimi thing. listen to phish. they are a jamband. listen to the flecktones. they jam and change the song. DMB keeps the same structure, same guitar, same bass and same drums for 20 minutes and butch solos over it. that does not equal jam band.

would you like dave to play a different instrument? :lol:

they change their song's "jams" around every tour i've been too..

i will always classify them as a "jam band"

ballmeblazer · Unread post by **ballmeblazer** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:33 pm

[quote="jrock231"]But this is going to anyway.

For all of you who hate or do not like Everyday, Busted Stuff[quote]

how did busted stuff get dragged into this?? i don't recall seeing one thread about how no one likes it. the only thing i can think of is how it's not as good as it's quasi-predecessor(the lillywhite sessions). but before you go about generalizing, generalize correctly. and welcome.

You_Enjoy_Myself · Unread post by **You_Enjoy_Myself** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:48 pm

Appfro wrote:once you hear the songs live you hear how great most of them could have been, but they were cut off, stopped from jamming, stopped from being creative and it sucked. dmb is a jam band...sorry, but they are. they need to act like one.

That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here. You're gonna tell one of the most successful bands of the last decade how they need to act?

I think all of you should stop whining about the new dmb sound and widen your horizons if you don't like the direction they're heading.

*leaves thread*

Jay · Unread post by **Jay** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:08 pm

You_Enjoy_Myself wrote:I think all of you should stop whining about the new dmb sound and widen your horizons if you don't like the direction they're heading.

*leaves thread*

that sucks as a comment. i listen to a lot of bands who have changed their sound (MUCH more drastically than dmb has) over the years. the change is not the problem. it's that the change wasn't good.

my horizons don't need shit.

*stops off*

i am sam2 · Unread post by **i am sam2** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:44 pm

ok...based on various definitions of jam band, DMB is now considered a semi-jam band. meaning they definately jam, but they dont do any grateful dead level jamming. they are definately a jam band in context/relation to what is out there now

Grachi · Unread post by **Grachi** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:41 pm

i cant really think of any other jam bands out there right now...

robert randolph and them jam... maybe OAR?

i dunno those are the only ones i can think of really... course im really really tired too im sure there are plenty im not thinking of

EDIT: I mean i cant think of like well known jambands... like ones that are heard of

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